On Sun, 27 Jun 2010, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 02:16:26 -0400
Steve Polyack <kor...@comcast.net> articulated:
On 6/26/2010 6:07 PM, Tim Judd wrote:
On 6/26/10, Olivier GARNIER<ap1...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
Hi,
I've got an old workstation wich i use to have FreeBSD server on it
(http/samba/ 4 disk on RAID)
It's summer time and the old workstation will not work at the end
the summer time (too warm for it)
So ii wish to change it.
I don't need a big server, a tiny workstation will be enough.
I wish a inter CPU and dell construction (i'm use to use there
work) So herre is the question :
If you have dell computer (wich is still sold by dell) and if
you're working with FreeBSD on it with no more problem, can you
tell me witch computer you have ?
(it would be great to have the same list as laptop
(*laptop*.bsdgroup.de) For workstation and server ...)
You have more people with success on generic hardware you buy at
newegg.com for example than you will with Dell or any other OEM.
Moreover, you won't get support from Dell or an OEM for support
issues, including hardware replacements because they didn't sell the
machine with BSD.
This isn't true. Dell won't give you any operating system support,
but they will honor your hardware warranties just fine. We've had
various failures that were replaced with very little hassle from
Dell. The most trouble they will give you is if it's an obscure
issue, in which case they'll ask you to boot Linux and run their DSET
tool.
If you want a company that supports BSD, use iXsystems.
If you want general compatibility that generally works better than
any OEM, use general parts from newegg, etc. iXsystems is the
exception because they test and support BSD on the parts they sell.
iXsystems products look very solid. We've had a good bit of luck
with the various Dells we've had. Mostly 8th and 9th gen PowerEdge
servers, and then the new R710s. They're all very solid systems and
we've had very few driver issues. They FreeBSD team has done a great
job at patching the issues we have had. We also have a handful of
their Optiplex desktop workstations that run BSD quite well.
Th only serious problem that I have had with compatibility between Dell
and FreeBSD is that FreeBSD does not have drivers for the 'N' class
wireless cards that Dell uses. However, FreeBSD does not have drivers
for most of the newer wireless cards anyway, so if you are not using
wireless, or don't mind using the older depreciated A/B/G protocols,
you should not have any problems.
--
Jerry ?
freebsd.u...@seibercom.net
My Dell experiences track this. Good for servers. Support is better if you buy
as small biz rather than an end-user. In 1995 when I started, I got and used
(many times) 4 hour support. The worst thing is RAID can not be hot swapped. I
had a PE2400 that failed 1 month before they would not extend the warranty any
further and they replaced everything but the disks.
For a FreeBSD desktop however, unless you either an Xorg driver maintainer, an
Xorg developer, or like beating yourself with chains, Dell should be avoided.
Old hardware gradually gets un-supported and I have a new Inspiron 1764 that I
can either use as a build system or a paperweight as far as FreeBSD goes. The
newer Dells use the new Intel video chipsets which are not AFAIK yet supported
in Xorg.
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