On Friday 24 October 2003 03:10 pm, Kent Stewart wrote:
> On Friday 24 October 2003 02:41 pm, Jesse Guardiani wrote:
> > Kent Stewart wrote:
> > > On Friday 24 October 2003 01:38 pm, Jesse Guardiani wrote:
> > >> Kent Stewart wrote:
> > >> > On Friday 24 October 2003 10:41 am, Jesse Guardiani wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > >> > I come from the programming world and to update a library and not
> > >> > update the codes that use it really bothers me. I do what you did
> > >> > but I keep thinking about all of the problems that I could be
> > >> > causing.
> > >>
> > >> Ah. I see. It's binary compatibility thing. Portupgrade has no way of
> > >> knowing if the new package is binary compatible with the old package,
> > >> so it builds the new package, uninstalls the old package, and installs
> > >> the new one. Grrr...
> > >>
> > >> OK. I guess I'll just have to rebuild my entire ports tree if I want
> > >> it done right.
> > >
> > > Not all of the time. For example, the only one in recent time was the
> > > gettext library problem.
> > >
> > > The other thing is why are you telling portupgrade to recursively build
> > > all of grip's dependancies when you may not need to. I look at what
> > > portversion tells me is out of date first.
> >
> > You mean portupgrade won't recursively upgrade my ports that are out of
> > date? It rebuilds ALL of them?
>
> It didn't in the past. You only had to create packages and you would see
> them with 1-2 minute differences in creation times. That is only long
> enough to re-package the large tarball, which is what I see it doing.

Many people use -rR to make portupgrade look both up and down the tree. You 
might try that on grip and see what it does. When it refused to delete a 
port, I always had to use "f" to force and then it rebuilds everything 
associated with the port in the direction(s) you told it to process on the 
command line. 

If we used make, it would rebuild all of the dependant ports every time 
something was changed. Portupgrade avoids that but you can still force the 
make like behavior.

Kent

>
> > Hmmm... I never noticed that before. That stinks!
>
> I could be also wrong. When it comes to computers, truth is a sliding
> window.
>
> > I'm looking for an automated upgrade proceedure here. portupgrade doesn't
> > seem to be giving it to me.
>
> You are also looking for a quick solution and that is what portupgrade
> doesn't always provide. It can't make the decision of rebuilding what has
> been updated versus rebuilding everything is needed. There isn't any magic
> flag in the port tree to tell portupgrade that all of the dependant ports
> need to be updated.
>
> Kent

-- 
Kent Stewart
Richland, WA

http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html

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