# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-10-28 01:43:19 +0100:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 04:07:08PM -0800, kosmos wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:36:48PM +0100, Simon Barner wrote:
> > > > What is the procedure to submit a new port when you don't have access to
> > > > a dedicated and highly-visible Freebsd machine on the internet?
> > > 
> > > You have to configure sendmail (or any other MTA of your choice) to use
> > > a proper mail server (e.g your ISP's) as a smarthost/mailrelay. Perhaps
> > > at least a reference to the according sendmail documentation should be
> > > added to the send-pr man page.
> > 
> > Yes, I tried installing a simpler MTA this morning.
> > 
> > I think it's asking too much to require sendmail configuration 
> > expertise from contributing porters. Sendmail configuration is
> > normally relegated to sysadmins that specialize in it.

    then use a different MTA, one with proper documentation,
    configuration helpers, or digestible config file formats. there's
    plenty of them in ports. qmail bundled documentation contains
    precise description of steps required to produce a nullclient
    configuration, as does postfix documentation.

> > The skill sets are mutually exclusive.

    aha. you can't possess skill in both skiing and driving. the skill
    sets are mutually exclusive. eh?

> > > > I wonder how many people just give up trying.
> > > 
> > > Good question. Every single volunteer giving up is a pity.
> > 
> > Yep. It happens and nobody is aware of it. The ports collection doesn't 
> > really benefit from decreased access for contributors.

    is it that hard to have send-pr(1) save the PR in file instead of
    sending it out, and attach it to a mail in your favorite graphical MUA?
    you *are* able to reach @freebsd.org, after all.

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