On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 02:26:12PM +0200, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote:
> [ Sorry for the delay, I was (and still am) rebuilding everything with
> pthread  on my desktop. ]

        Not a problem!!  I got a late start today and have 
        other-stuff to do before evening... .
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:37:30 -0800
> Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 01:09:11PM +0200, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote:
> [..]
> > 
> >     Hi,
> > 
> >     I'd be grateful for some tips on how to get dspam up.   I 
> >     installed it after reading your mail; then I waded into the
> >     long README and felt nearly overwhelmed.
> Yeh, I know. I will hopefully rewrite the readme and add some docs on
> the next release.
> >  I've used mysql to set up several message boards,, but that's about
> >  the extent of my knowledge.  
> No problem here. The first question is: do you have your mail users in a
> mysql database or they are in the system ?

        I don't quite understand your question.   I would like to
        filter spam from/at my primary nameserver, ns1.thought.org.

        There aren't any real user accounts on NS1; it's just me
        and an "admin" account, and of course, root.  Other user 
        accounts are on inside/private hosts: tao.thought.org and
        ethic.thought.org.  ethic is a RedHat system that I let
        my daughter play on.  So far she hasn't gotten much spam.
        The spammers hit me hard.  Do I need to install dspam here
        on tao.thought.org?  (This host is my testbed so I have
        mysql installed here.)

> If they are in the system use dspam_2mysql to generate the table for
> dpsam from the passwd file, and use dspam_genaliases to generate the
> spam aliases for each user to forward the spam to.

        Ok, in an xterm on NS1 I just ran dspam_2mysql; nothing was
        output to std|[out|err].  (?)  Nothing in /var/db/mysql so
        looks like I'm doing something wrong.

        dspam_genaliases prints aliases like:

spam-nobody:    "|'/usr/local/bin/dspam' --user 'nobody' --addspam"
spam-admin:     "|'/usr/local/bin/dspam' --user 'admin' --addspam"
spam-www:       "|'/usr/local/bin/dspam' --user 'www' --addspam"
spam-kline:     "|'/usr/local/bin/dspam' --user 'kline' --addspam"
spam-postmaster:        "|'/usr/local/bin/dspam' --user 'postmaster' --addspam"
spam-abuse:     "|'/usr/local/bin/dspam' --user 'abuse' --addspam"

        to stdout.  Let's say that I want to block spam from
        /home/admin:  the address would be [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Where would I put the "spam-admin" alias?  

> As a general note, until you're convince the hole system works ok
> compile dpam with verbose_debug. As currently the port doesn't offer
> that, just add:
> CONFIGURE_ARGS+=--enable-debug \
>                 --enable-verbose-debug
> just above:
> .if defined(WITH_MYSQL)

        Done!  and re-installed.... 

> Be aware that this will produce * a lot * of noise on a busy system (It
> will log a copy of each mail in /usr/local/etc/dspam/dspam.messages, in
> dspam.debug it will log how it applies the algorithms ans some sql debug
> info in dspam.messages and the sql queries and results in sql.errors)
> And when I say a lot I mean about 100MB for about 10.000 mails.. Also I
> would suggest turning off mysql query log if it's on (I nicely run out
> of space, for the same amount of messages it eats up about  500MB).

        Thanks for the warnings.  I've got to be careful with my
        DNS server: not much space.
> Make an test user so that you don't have all your mails passed to dspam
> until it working ok.

        I'll use [EMAIL PROTECTED] right now.  
> >     I've been using /etc/mail/access that catches tons of 
> >     spam.  It would be great if dspam could do the rest!
> You can use dspam between your MTA and LDA for local delivery. Or do a
> more complex setup and re-inject the mail into the MTA.
> Give me some more details, please.

        Ok; looks like I'll rebuild dspam here on tao.  I'm beginning
        to get a clue, but still don't understand what I need to do
        re mysql.  Also, what to do with the spam-aliases lines.

        Thanks much for your help.  I think dspam will save 
        lots of people from needness grief (and spam)!



   Gary Kline     [EMAIL PROTECTED]   www.thought.org     Public service Unix

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