Selamlar Desenize 2004 bayagi guzel gececek :) kolay gelsin On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 08:21:48PM +0200, =?iso-8859-9?Q?Engin_=D6. ?= wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Long" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 7:57 PM > Subject: [FreeBSD-Announce] January-February 2004 Status Report > > > > January-February 2004 Status Report > > > > Introduction: > > > > 2004 started with another exciting two months for the project. FreeBSD > > 5.2 was released in early January and then quickly followed in > > February with the 5.2.1 bug-fix release. Looking forward, we are > > expecting a late-April release date for FreeBSD 4.10, and mid-summer > > date for FreeBSD 5.3. And don't forget to support the FreeBSD vendors > > and developers by buying a copy of the latest CD or DVD sets. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Scott Long > > > > * Bluetooth stack for FreeBSD (Netgraph implementation) > > * Automatic sizing of TCP send buffers > > * Compile FreeBSD with Intels C compiler (icc) > > * Disk and device I/O > > * FreeBSD GNOME Project Report > > * FreeBSD Package Grid > > * FreeBSD ports monitoring system > > * FreeBSD/arm Status Report > > * FreeBSD/ia64 > > * FreeSBIE > > * kgi4BSD > > * libarchive/bsdtar > > * Move ARP out of routing table > > * NanoBSD > > * Network interface naming changes > > * Network Stack Locking > > * Porting OpenBSD's pf > > * PowerPC Port > > * SGI XFS port for FreeBSD > > * Testbed for testing and qualification of TCP performance > > * The FreeBSD Dutch Documentation Project. > > * The FreeBSD Simplified Chinese Project > > * Verify source reachability option for ipfw2 > > * vinum + GEOM > > * Weekly cvs-src summaries > > > > Bluetooth stack for FreeBSD (Netgraph implementation) > > > > Contact: Maksim Yevmenkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Not much to report. Bluetooth Service Discovery Procotol daemon sdpd > > was integrated with existing Bluetooth utilities. From now on users > > should not use GNU sdpd (Linux BlueZ port). > > > > Bluetooth HID profile implementation is almost complete. Thanks to > > Matt Peterson < matt at peterson dot org > for giving me Bluetooth > > keyboard and mouse for development. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Automatic sizing of TCP send buffers > > > > Contact: Andre Oppermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > The current TCP send and receive buffers are static and set to a > > conservative value to preserve kernel memory. This is sub-optimal for > > connections with a high bandwidth*delay product because the size of > > the TCP send buffer determines how big the send window can get. For > > high bandwidth trans-continental links this seriously limits the > > maximum transfer speed per TCP connection. For example a 170ms RTT and > > a 32kB send buffer limit the speed to approximately 1.5Mbit per second > > even thought you might have a 10Mbit pipe. > > > > This project makes the TCP send buffer to automatically adapt to the > > optimal buffer size for maximal link usage. In the case above this > > would be a buffer of approximately 220kB. The main challenge is to > > have a stable and reliable measurement of the link parameters and > > manage the kernel memory properly and in a fair way. We don't want to > > have a few connections to monopolize all available socket buffer space > > and many edge cases have to be considered. The first implementation > > will be tuned conservatively but even that will provide significantly > > better performance than the static buffers currently. Work on this > > project is already in progress. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Compile FreeBSD with Intels C compiler (icc) > > > > URL: http://www.Leidinger.net/FreeBSD/ > > > > Contact: Alexander Leidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > If nothing bad happened, the icc patches got committed around the date > > of the deadline for submissions of this report. Please search the > > archives of -current and/or cvs-all for more information. > > > > The next steps in this project are to > > * fix the kernel to also run without problems when compiled with icc > > v8 > > * fix the kernel if some problems surface after more people give it > > a try > > * get some ports to compile with icc > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Disk and device I/O > > > > Contact: Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > In the overall area of disk and device I/O, a significant milestone > > was reached with the implementation of proper reference counting on > > dev_t. We are now able to properly allocate and free dev_t. Cloning > > device drivers also had the job made easier for them with the addition > > of the unit number management routines. > > > > It is not quite decided which will be the next step in the quest for a > > truly SMPng I/O subsystem, but a leading candidate is to implement the > > device-access vnode bypass to get more concurrency in the system: > > Instead of taking the tour through the vnodes for each i/o operation > > on a device we will go directly from the file descriptor layer to > > DEVFS/SPECFS. In addition to Giant-less disk I/O, this should enable > > us to pull the entire tty subsystem and the PTY driver out from under > > Giant and we expect that to improve the "snappiness" of the system > > measurably. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > FreeBSD GNOME Project Report > > > > URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ > > > > Contact: FreeBSD GNOME Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > It has been a year since our last status report, but we haven't slowed > > down. Since the last report, Alexander Nedotsukov (bland) and Pav > > Lucistnik (pav) have joined the FreeBSD GNOME team. GNOME 2.4 was > > released back in September 2003, followed by 2.4.1 and 2.4.2. We are > > actively working on getting GNOME 2.6.0 out the door at the end of > > March. GNOME 2.6 Beta releases can be obtained via the project URL > > above. > > > > To help make GNOME 2.6.0 our best release to date, we have created a > > script to automate the upgrade from GNOME 2.4. We also have a new > > GNOME package build server that builds and serves i386 packages for > > all supported FreeBSD releases. We plan on having the GNOME 2.6.0 > > packages available the moment 2.6.0 hits the ports tree. > > > > Included in the release of GNOME 2.6 is GTK+ 2.4, the next installment > > in the GTK+ 2 series. Because GTK+ 2 has become very stable over the > > past few years, the FreeBSD GNOME Team is pushing for GTK+ 2 support > > to be included by default in all applications that support it. This > > has already been done with Mozilla, Firefox, and Thunderbird. A > > complete GNOME Desktop and application environment can already be > > built using only GTK+ 2. The ultimate goal is to phase GTK+ 1 out of > > the ports tree. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > FreeBSD Package Grid > > > > Contact: Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Distributed package builds are currently done using a set of > > home-grown shell scripts for managing, scheduling and dispatching of > > package builds on the client machines. This has been sufficient for > > our needs in the past, but has a number of significant shortcomings > > that limit future growth. I am rewriting the package build scripts to > > work on top of Sun GridEngine (ports/sysutils/sge), as a client > > application of a "FreeBSD package grid". Some of the design goals for > > the new system are: > > * Better robustness against machine failure, and more efficient > > scheduling of build jobs > > * Support for remote build machines, to make better use of machine > > resources and clusters that are not on the same LAN as the build > > master > > * Ability for other committers to submit port build jobs to the > > system, for testing of changes, new ports, etc. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > FreeBSD ports monitoring system > > > > URL: http://portsmon.firepipe.net/index.html > > > > Contact: Mark Linimon <linimon_at_lonesome_dot_com> > > > > Thanks to the loan of a box by Will Andrews, the system has been moved > > into production. The previous installation at lonesome.com now refers > > you to the new system. As part of the installation, a preliminary FAQ > > was added. > > > > The database is updated once per hour. > > > > New reports available include ones about ports marked DEPRECATED, > > since that function has now been incorporated into bsd.port.mk. (The > > author hopes that this will allow the port deprecation process to be > > much more visible to the general FreeBSD user community.) In addition, > > a report for ports marked FORBIDDEN was added (the code was > > essentially the same). > > > > The next topic of interest is to try to identify ports which are slave > > ports because the status of these ports is not currently being updated > > automatically. This problem also affects FreshPorts. PR ports/63683 is > > an attempt to address this problem. Also, preliminary work has been > > done on creating some graphs and charts for various statistics, and in > > creating a tool to browse port dependencies for the entire ports tree. > > > > Some general observations about the trends in ports PRs can be made: > > * In the past 6 months, the amount of time to get ports PRs > > committed has dropped dramatically. (This is especially true of > > PRs for new ports.) > > * The queue of PRs for existing ports that are unmaintained has > > similarly been trimmed. Both of these two items are due in large > > part to a few very active committers (how do they ever get their > > "real" work done?) Thanks, guys, you know who you are. > > * There is still a fairly high number of PRs (~400/~750) which apply > > to existing ports, and have been assigned to a FreeBSD committer. > > This represents around 370 individual ports. We seem to have a > > much harder time getting these numbers to go down; basically, we > > just hold our own most weeks. This is somewhat disappointing. > > * The number of ports marked BROKEN has jumped dramatically, > > currently standing at over 250 (for i386-current). This represents > > less a sudden problem as it does Kris' effort to bring existing > > brokenness to people's attention -- thus, a much larger percentage > > of ports with build errors are now labeled as BROKEN. > > * Approximately two-thirds of the port build errors are still due to > > compilation problems, primarily from the gcc3.3 import. Another > > 10% fail to install correctly. The reasons for the others are more > > varied. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > FreeBSD/arm Status Report > > > > Contact: Olivier Houchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Development goes reasonably fast, right now it boots single user. It > > is still very simics-centric, and it deserves a huge cleanup and a few > > bug fixes, but there's already a decent amount of code to work with, > > mostly taken from NetBSD. I now plan to work on real hardware support > > (as soon as I can get some), to get the missing userland bits (mainly > > rtld and the pthread libs) so that I can build a full world. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > FreeBSD/ia64 > > > > URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/platforms/ia64/index.html > > > > Contact: Marcel Moolenaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Work on the PMAP overhaul has been put into gear. A lot of issues will > > be addressed, including support for sparse physical memory and of > > course SMP. Performance will be addressed to the extend possible, but > > functionality has priority. The redesign will lay the foundation for > > NUMA support where possible. An example of this is limiting TLB > > shootdowns to processors that actually have or had TLBs belonging to > > the PMAP loaded. Of course, without NUMA hardware the implementation > > of NUMA support is quite limited. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > FreeSBIE > > > > URL: http://www.freesbie.org > > URL: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > URL: http://www.freesbie.org/?section=mirror-en > > > > Contact: FreeSBIE Staff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > The FreeSBIE Project aims to develop a set of scripts that allow > > anyone to create their own FreeBSD Bootable Cdrom, with their own set > > of installed packages. The Project releases an ISO builded with > > FreeSBIE scripts, to show what they can do. On Sunday 29 February > > 2004, FreeSBIE 1.0 was released and it had a great success, as there > > were post on Slashdot.org, OSnews, DaemonNews and BSDForums. Thanks to > > the huge amount of feedback they got, FreeSBIE Developers are now > > developing new features such as support for archs different from i386. > > Website redesign is on the way too. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > kgi4BSD > > > > URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~nsouch/kgi4BSD > > > > Contact: Nicholas Souchu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Move to Perforce is done. I spent some time on building a common > > compilation tree with Linux: until now drivers were build in a FreeBSD > > makefile tree, not compatible with Linux. > > > > The next priorities are ANSI support and keymaps in the KGC Kernel > > Graphic Console system. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > libarchive/bsdtar > > > > URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~kientzle/ > > > > Contact: Tim Kientzle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > libarchive, with complete documentation, has been committed to > > -CURRENT. bsdtar should follow soon. For a few months, gtar and bsdtar > > will both be available in the base system. Once bsdtar is in the tree, > > I hope to resume work on libpkg and my pkg_add rewrite. > > > > Note that bsdtar is not an exact replacement for gtar: it does some > > things better (reads/writes standard formats, archive ACLs and file > > flags, detects format and compression automatically), some things > > worse (does not handle multi-volume archives or sparse files) and a > > few things just different (writes POSIX-format archives by default, > > not GNU-format). The command lines are sufficiently similar that most > > users should have no problems with the transition. However, people who > > rely on peculiar options or capabilities of gtar may have to look to > > ports. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Move ARP out of routing table > > > > Contact: Andre Oppermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > The ARP IP address to MAC address mapping does not belong into the > > routing table (FIB) as it is currently done. This will move it to its > > own hash based structure which will be instantiated per each 802.1 > > broadcast domain. With this change it is possible to have more than > > one interface in the same IP subnet and layer 2 broadcast domain. The > > ARP handling and the routing table will be quite a bit simplified > > afterwards. As an additional benefit full MAC address based accosting > > will be provided. Work on this project is already in progress. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > NanoBSD > > > > Contact: Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > NanoBSD, src/tools/tools/nanobsd, is a tool for stuffing FreeBSD onto > > small disk media (like CompactFlash) for embedded applications. The > > disk image is built with three partitions, two for software images and > > one for configuration files. Having two software partitions means that > > new software can be uploaded to the non-active partition while running > > off the active partition. > > > > The first really public version has been committed and many > > suggestions and offers of patches have started pouring in. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Network interface naming changes > > > > Contact: Brooks Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > The first actual feature related to the if_xname conversion was > > committed in early February. Network interfaces can now be renamed > > with "ifconfig <if> name <newname>". > > > > Work is slowly progressing on a new network interface cloning API to > > enable interesting cloners like auto-configurating vlans. This work is > > taking place in the perforce repository under: > > //depot/user/brooks/xname/... > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Network Stack Locking > > > > Contact: Sam Leffler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Contact: Robert Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > This project is aimed at converting the FreeBSD network stack from > > running under the single Giant kernel lock to permitting it to run in > > a fully parallel manner on multiple CPUs (i.e., a fully threaded > > network stack). This will improve performance/latency through > > reentrancy and preemption on single-processor machines, and also on > > multi-processor machines by permitting real parallelism in the > > processing of network traffic. As of FreeBSD 5.2, it was possible to > > run low level network functions, as well as the IP filtering and > > forwarding plane, without the Giant lock, as well as "process to > > completion" in the interrupt handler. > > > > Work continues to improve the maturity and completeness of the locking > > (and performance) of the network stack for 5.3. The network stack > > locking development branch has been updated cothe latest CVS HEAD, > > tracking a variety of FreeBSD changes, including tracking and driving > > changes in the interface and device cloning APIs, push-down and fixes > > to locking in the Berkeley Packet Filter, consistency improvements in > > allocation flags for network objects, diagnosis of excessive > > acquisition of Giant in various system callouts and timeouts, removal > > of Giant from several system callouts, "const"-ification of a number > > of global variables in the network stack (IPv4, IPv6, elsewhere) as > > part of ananalysis of locking requirements, fine-grain locking of a > > number of pseudo-interfaces (disc, loopback, faith, stf, gif, tap, > > tun), IP encapsulation and tunneling, initial review and locking of > > parts of PPP and SLIP, experimentation with PCB assertions on IPv6, > > additional socket locking assertions, graphing of the FreeBSD sockets > > layer to support locking analysis, merging of theMT_TAG to m_tag > > conversion to improve the ability to queue packets, moving of the > > debug.mpsafenet tunable to controlling Giant over the forwarding plane > > to Giant over the entire stack("dual-mode" to support non-MPSAFE > > protocols), adaption of existing network lock assertions to also > > assert Giant when running non-MPSAFE, analysis of high cost of > > select() locking, improved locking and synchronization annotations, > > TCP callouts run MPSAFE, logtimeout() runs MPSAFE, uma_timeout() runs > > MPSAFE, callout sampling instrumentation, loadav() runs MPSAFE, > > AppleTalk locking begun: AARP locked down and DDP analysis, rawcb list > > locked, locking analysis of mrouter and IP ID code, IGMP locked, IPv6 > > analysis begun, IPX/SPX analysis begun, PPP timeouts converted to > > callouts, Netgraph analysis begun. Many of these changes have not yet > > been merged to the main FreeBSDtree, but this is a work in progress. > > > > In related work on Pipe IPC (not quite network stack locking), > > substantial time was invested in diagnosing an increase in the cost of > > pipe allocation since FreeBSD 4.x, as well as coalescing the several > > allocations needed to create a pipe, as well as moving to slab > > allocation so as to amortize the cost of pipe initialization. Future > > work here will include caching the VM structures supporting pipe > > buffers. > > > > Recent contributors include Robert Watson, Sam Leffler, MaxLaier, > > Maurycy Pawlowski-Wieronski, Brooks Davis, and many others who are > > omitted here only by accident. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Porting OpenBSD's pf > > > > URL: http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ > > URL: http://www.benzedrine.cx/pf.html > > URL: http://openbsd.org/faq/pf/index.html > > URL: http://www.rofug.ro/projects/freebsd-altq/ > > > > Contact: Max Laier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Contact: Pyun YongHyeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > The sources were imported from OpenBSD 3.4R and patched with diffs > > obtained from the port. Since March the 8th it is linked to the build > > and install. There is some more work to be done in order make pf a > > home inside the tree, but the biggest hunk of work was lifted during > > the past two month. > > > > OpenBSD 3.5 is scheduled for early May, so we might see an update > > before 5.3R. Work towards integration of the - often requested - ALTQ > > framework is in progress also, though it is not yet clear how well it > > goes along with the ongoing work towards a giant free net stack. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > PowerPC Port > > > > Contact: Peter Grehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > After a slow time at the end of last year due to a disk crash, the > > project is moving along rapidly. The loader is fully functional with > > Forth support. Syscons has been integrated. New Powerbook models are > > supported. Work is starting on a G5 port. > > > > There's still lots to do, so as usual volunteers are most welcome. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > SGI XFS port for FreeBSD > > > > Contact: Alexander Kabaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Contact: Russell Cattelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Not much has changed since last report was submitted. The read-onle > > access XFS volumes is quite stable now. The work is underway to > > rewrite xfs_buf layer to minimize local changes intrusiveness. Initial > > attempt to make XFS code to compile and run on amd64 is in progress > > too. > > > > We really need a care-taker for our userland tools. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Testbed for testing and qualification of TCP performance > > > > Contact: Andre Oppermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > The TCP performance test and qualification testbed is an automated > > environment that simulates various common and uncommon end-to-end > > network and link characteristics such as delay, bandwidth limitations, > > congestion, packet drops, packet corruption and out of order arrival. > > The testbed automatically steps through all link types and tests > > various TCP optimizations and parameter adjustments. In the end all > > data is graphically arranged and compared against standard behaviour > > and each other to judge the positive or negative effects of the > > modifications. Work on this project has just started and is based on > > FreeBSDs dummynet. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > The FreeBSD Dutch Documentation Project. > > > > Contact: Remko Lodder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > The Dutch Documentation Project is a ongoing project in translating > > the handbook and other documentation to the dutch language. Currently > > there is 1 active person (me) translating the documentation. I am > > currently working on the handbook/basics section. But i can use some > > more hands, please drop me an email if you wish to help out so that > > the dutch translation will speed up and be ready in some time. Contact > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] for information. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > The FreeBSD Simplified Chinese Project > > > > URL: http://www.freebsd.org.cn > > URL: http://www.freebsd.org.cn/snap/zh_CN/ > > URL: http://www.freebsd.org.cn/snap/doc/zh_CN.GB2312/books/handbook/ > > > > Contact: Dong LI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Contact: Xin LI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > The project is a joint effort of volunteers, which focus in the > > internationalization and localization of the FreeBSD Operating System > > and applications running on FreeBSD. All of the work resulted in this > > project will be contributed back to the FreeBSD project. > > > > Thanks to many volunteers' help, by this time of writing, we have > > finished more than 60% of the translation of the FreeBSD Handbook. We > > plan to submit a preliminary translation of the FreeBSD website as > > well as the FreeBSD Handbook when most part of them were finished, > > which is expected to happen in a couple of months. The snapshot of the > > documentation translation effort could be accessed through the URL > > listed above. > > > > The project also supported individual efforts on porting applications > > (especially software that supports Simplified and/or Traditional > > Chinese) to FreeBSD. We are also doing some research on making FreeBSD > > kernel and base system more i18n-aware. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Verify source reachability option for ipfw2 > > > > URL: http://www.nrg4u.com/freebsd/ipfw_versrcreach.diff > > > > Contact: Andre Oppermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > The verify source reachability option for ipfw2 checks if the source > > IP address of a packet entering the machine is reachable at all. Thus > > if we can't send a packet back because we don't have a route back we > > don't have to forward it because two way communication isn't possible > > anyway. It is more than likely that such a packet is spoofed. This > > option is almost the same as what is known on Cisco IOS as "ip verify > > unicast source reachable-via [any|ifn]". Using this option only makes > > sense when you don't have a default route which naturally always > > matches. So this is useful for machines acting as routers with a > > default-free view of the entire Internet as common when running a BGP > > daemon (Zebra/Quagga or OpenBSD bgpd). > > > > One useful way of enabling it globally on a router looks like this: > > ipfw add xxxx deny ip from any to any not versrcreach or for an > > individual interface only: ipfw add xxxx deny ip from any to any not > > versrcreach recv fxp0 > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > vinum + GEOM > > > > URL: http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~le/geom_vinum.tar.gz > > > > Contact: Lukas Ertl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > The "geomification" of vinum has made some progress. I now have all > > basic setups working (concatenated plexes, striped plexes, RAID5 > > plexes, and RAID1), but I still have to implement correct error > > handling and status change handling. > > > > Still missing is a userland tool, so currently you still have to use > > "old-style" vinum to configure your setup. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Weekly cvs-src summaries > > > > URL: http://excel.xl0.org/FreeBSD/ > > URL: http://mocart.pinco.pl/FreeBSD/ > > > > Contact: Mark Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > I have been producing weekly summaries of commits and the surrounding > > discussions as reported on the cvs-src mailing list. These summaries > > are posted to -current on Sunday evenings and archived on the Web. The > > reception has been overwhelmingly good. 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