On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:16 PM, [email protected] wrote:

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Marc Manthey - [email protected] wrote:
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So why we need all this NAT /SIP/STUN / punching stuff ?


Then, how long has it taken major implementers, large Internet Service
Providers (ISPs), large network companies, and national governments,
to buy IPv6 equipment and place it into service?


In france one of the biggest ISPs (free.fr ) offers ipv6 for every customer without any extra charge since years. http://ipv6pourtous.free.fr/rani/

Comcast has released source-code for the next-generation of IPv6 enabled home gateway device (a.k.a. home router).
This IPv6 solution is based on the  OpenWrt  platform.

www.comcast6.net/

http://sourceforge.net/p/dslite-6rd/home/


So i predict everyone has ipv6 before 2012 ends , so why we need ICE/ SIP and STUN in ipv6 when we have end-to end connectivity ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-to-end_principle

greetings


Marc


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