Does this mean that people are actually still going to write software for FreeDOS?
That is material for a whole different thread. Imre >-----Original Message----- >From: Blair Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 02:14 PM >To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] Compiler group? > >I think what we REALLY need is a free PASCAL compiler that can >generate 16-bit code. I know for a fact that the OpenWatcom project >would welcome a PASCAL frontend to their toolset. Any takers? > >On 9/14/06, Ladislav Lacina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, there are another two quite good BASIC compilers: Turbo Basic and >> Power Basic. >> You can both download from my site at: http://www.laaca.borec.cz/pascal.htm >> >> (The site is in czech and there is a big title "pascal" but don't panic - >> theese download links are at the bottom of page.) >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Eric Auer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:17 PM >> Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] Compiler group? >> >> >> > >> > Hi Imre, >> > >> > > Well I think what we are realy missing is a good BASIC compiler. >> > > Something like QuickBASIC. Free BASIC has something like that but >> > > that works only in 32 bit. >> > >> > As http://www.freebasic.net/index.php/about?section=diff >> > shows, FreeBASIC is very close to QuickBASIC already. And >> > 386+ PCs have been around for more than 15 years now. I >> > hear that people think FreeDOS is obsolete because they no >> > longer have computers OLD enough to run it. You should not >> > support their point by putting much effort in writing 8086 >> > software for FreeDOS today ;-). >> > >> > I would appreciate some FreeBASIC command line options to >> > set default types (QB: single for variables, 16bit for INTEGER, >> > FB: integer for variables, 32bit for INTEGER). That would >> > make FreeBASIC ("command line optionally"!) behave even more >> > like QuickBASIC, where appropriate. Automatic arrays for up >> > to 10 elements are probably a bad idea, as are automatic >> > declarations before CALL, but one could write a preprocessor >> > to compile QB programs out of the box. Last but not least, >> > padding of fixed length strings should probably have a command >> > line "simulate QB" option as well... :-). >> > >> > >> > >> > FreeDOS can even run on the most modern PC with multi core >> > multi CPU 64bit architecture and many GB of RAM, even >> > though it will only use 1 core and 4 GB of RAM at most. >> > And FreeDOS is useful for everything up to the most modern >> > PC with a 32bit Linux kernel and DOSEMU running on it, or >> > even higher, if you use a virtual PC in Win, Linux or MacOS. >> > >> > FreeDOS also makes sense on any PC which is too old for the >> > current versions of Linux or Windows. Because if you have, >> > say, only 128 MB RAM, the current versions of, say, KDE and >> > WinXP will not run well. Combine that with older versions >> > of Linux and Windows increasingly becoming unsupported >> > software (I think SuSE has no distro with 2.4 kernel left in >> > their "current / supported versions" any more), and you find >> > why there is motivation to help people out with seemingly >> > old software like "outdated Linux" and "only DOS". >> > >> > > Let's completely rewrite it so that it works in 16 bit real mode. >> > > Especially if we can hold all the tables in XMS. So that it requires a >> > > 386 and 4 to 8 Mb anyway. >> > >> > If you insist on 8086, improve BWBASIC. If you want real mode >> > with XMS, you already want 286. And 286 is some half-life state >> > between 8086 and the classic 386 architecture. Very small >> > group of computers / users if you ask me. Protected mode itself >> > is no problem at all for Basic as long as your PC is a 386 or >> > newer, if you ask me. >> > >> > Eric >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? >> > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job >> easier >> > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo >> > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Freedos-devel mailing list >> > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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