Jim suggested "classic", another word (perhaps more precise) that comes to my mind is "legacy", but I'm not saying I like it better, I just post the idea.
Aitor 2007/3/29, Alain M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I agree that "old" is ugly. > > I use FreeDOS for new and big programs, with databases of a few Giga > bytes on superfast Pentium-4 and AMDs > > And I plan to use for many years more... Which other system allows to > intall a full system from bare metal in half an hour by phone, with an > *unskilled* operator? > > Alain > > Eric Auer escreveu: > > Hi Florian, > > > >> Please remove from freedos.org: > >>> To run old DOS games (like DOOM, etc.) > >>> To run old business software that only supports DOS > >> The word "old" is very bad! > > > > No it is not. FreeDOS is one of very few ways to run > > CLASSIC software which no longer runs properly in DOS > > windows of Windows and which is too complex for for > > example dosbox. So it is good to have DOS to be able > > to run old software. On the other hand, you are right, > > people have to be aware that DOS is also a very nice > > lightweight system for doing MODERN things as well. > > > > Your use examples: File managing - well I prefer Unix > > filesystems, so... Audio player: Yes cool for a party > > night but most of the time I want to surf and email > > simultaneously ;-). Developing / editing: it can be > > nice to have a full screen text editor as the only > > thing on your screen (our EDIT supports having multiple > > text windows open simultaneously :-)), less distraction > > compared to Windows / Linux where people often have > > many things open... WWW, email: as said, I prefer to > > do online things in an OS where I can do other things > > like music playing and text editing and running DOS > > simultaneously. > > > >> And there should be also a _vision_ at the homepage. f.e. adding > >> of new features. > > > > Then we should link to the post 1.0 todo / wishlist Wiki page. > > > >> version 1.0....but will this be all? > > > > I want 1.1 with updates, bugfixes, better docs and usability. > > > >> What are the goals? > > > > For me, having drivers for some more modern hardware, like > > a virtual SB16 to real AC97 audio bridge (use jemm386 and > > mpxplay for inspiration) and better USB / PCMCIA / SATA / > > UDMA drivers. In the long run also adding FreeBASIC and > > ClamAV CLAMSCAN and a dosfsck based SCANDISK of good quality > > and with good QBASIC compatibility. BASIC is no really cool > > language and many people will recommend REXX, BASH or PERL > > for modern DOS users, but there are many old Basic source > > code files which people want to keep using. There should > > also be a good mix of power features and reasonably easy > > use and good documentation. No need to transmogrify your > > Vista or Linux boot menu by magically touching NTFS or > > Reiser or whatever partitions. Also, NTFSresize is best > > done with Linux. But then, why don't we add one of those > > nice "toolbox Linux" distros to our own fdfullcd.iso for > > that? > > > > Another thing which should be better than in 1.0 is to > > have an easy way to do an install which from some point > > on asks almost no questions and which does NOT use > > internet nor USB during the "unzip" part of the install. > > Would make installing fast and more "foolproof". You can > > always add drivers later if you are a poweruser, and if > > you only want to replace your old MS DOS 6, you will not > > need to download, say, ASPI drivers anyway, because you > > will already have them and will know how to use them. > > > > See also: > > http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdDependencies > > http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdInstall > > > >> Maybe defrag lacks fat32 support (without bugs). > > > > I seem to remember thatDefrag is totally slow for fat32 but > > that it does have fat32 support now. Next would be undelete, > > if anybody wants to add fat32 support there, I would be happy > > to explain which parts of the code have to be changed how. > > > >> important things, like sound/hardware-drivers, other file systems > >> or multimedia-player or browser or taskmanager > > > > Agreed on the sound drivers, but not on the filesystems. > > DOS is DOS and is meant to be DOS. You will not want to > > have a multiuser DOS with access control lists in the > > filesystem and everything. Making MPLAYER run better in > > HXRT is certainly interesting but luckily already ongoing. > > There already is the Arachne browser and viewers like LXPIC. > > > > For the task manager, I think it is a lot better and a lot > > easier to just run several DOSEMU windows simultaneously. > > Resizeable and everything :-). > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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