Jim suggested "classic", another word (perhaps more precise) that
comes to my mind is "legacy", but I'm not saying I like it better, I
just post the idea.

Aitor

2007/3/29, Alain M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I agree that "old" is ugly.
>
> I use FreeDOS for new and big programs, with databases of a few Giga
> bytes on superfast Pentium-4 and AMDs
>
> And I plan to use for many years more... Which other system allows to
> intall a full system from bare metal in half an hour by phone, with an
> *unskilled* operator?
>
> Alain
>
> Eric Auer escreveu:
> > Hi Florian,
> >
> >> Please remove from freedos.org:
> >>> To run old DOS games (like DOOM, etc.)
> >>> To run old business software that only supports DOS
> >> The word "old" is very bad!
> >
> > No it is not. FreeDOS is one of very few ways to run
> > CLASSIC software which no longer runs properly in DOS
> > windows of Windows and which is too complex for for
> > example dosbox. So it is good to have DOS to be able
> > to run old software. On the other hand, you are right,
> > people have to be aware that DOS is also a very nice
> > lightweight system for doing MODERN things as well.
> >
> > Your use examples: File managing - well I prefer Unix
> > filesystems, so... Audio player: Yes cool for a party
> > night but most of the time I want to surf and email
> > simultaneously ;-). Developing / editing: it can be
> > nice to have a full screen text editor as the only
> > thing on your screen (our EDIT supports having multiple
> > text windows open simultaneously :-)), less distraction
> > compared to Windows / Linux where people often have
> > many things open... WWW, email: as said, I prefer to
> > do online things in an OS where I can do other things
> > like music playing and text editing and running DOS
> > simultaneously.
> >
> >> And there should be also a _vision_ at the homepage. f.e. adding
> >> of new features.
> >
> > Then we should link to the post 1.0 todo / wishlist Wiki page.
> >
> >> version 1.0....but will this be all?
> >
> > I want 1.1 with updates, bugfixes, better docs and usability.
> >
> >> What are the goals?
> >
> > For me, having drivers for some more modern hardware, like
> > a virtual SB16 to real AC97 audio bridge (use jemm386 and
> > mpxplay for inspiration) and better USB / PCMCIA / SATA /
> > UDMA drivers. In the long run also adding FreeBASIC and
> > ClamAV CLAMSCAN and a dosfsck based SCANDISK of good quality
> > and with good QBASIC compatibility. BASIC is no really cool
> > language and many people will recommend REXX, BASH or PERL
> > for modern DOS users, but there are many old Basic source
> > code files which people want to keep using. There should
> > also be a good mix of power features and reasonably easy
> > use and good documentation. No need to transmogrify your
> > Vista or Linux boot menu by magically touching NTFS or
> > Reiser or whatever partitions. Also, NTFSresize is best
> > done with Linux. But then, why don't we add one of those
> > nice "toolbox Linux" distros to our own fdfullcd.iso for
> > that?
> >
> > Another thing which should be better than in 1.0 is to
> > have an easy way to do an install which from some point
> > on asks almost no questions and which does NOT use
> > internet nor USB during the "unzip" part of the install.
> > Would make installing fast and more "foolproof". You can
> > always add drivers later if you are a poweruser, and if
> > you only want to replace your old MS DOS 6, you will not
> > need to download, say, ASPI drivers anyway, because you
> > will already have them and will know how to use them.
> >
> > See also:
> > http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdDependencies
> > http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdInstall
> >
> >> Maybe defrag lacks fat32 support (without bugs).
> >
> > I seem to remember thatDefrag is totally slow for fat32 but
> > that it does have fat32 support now. Next would be undelete,
> > if anybody wants to add fat32 support there, I would be happy
> > to explain which parts of the code have to be changed how.
> >
> >> important things, like sound/hardware-drivers, other file systems
> >> or multimedia-player or browser or taskmanager
> >
> > Agreed on the sound drivers, but not on the filesystems.
> > DOS is DOS and is meant to be DOS. You will not want to
> > have a multiuser DOS with access control lists in the
> > filesystem and everything. Making MPLAYER run better in
> > HXRT is certainly interesting but luckily already ongoing.
> > There already is the Arachne browser and viewers like LXPIC.
> >
> > For the task manager, I think it is a lot better and a lot
> > easier to just run several DOSEMU windows simultaneously.
> > Resizeable and everything :-).
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> >
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