Hi again, On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:38 PM, dos386 <dos...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Not aware of this bug, guess you notified Japheth? > > YES. http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/board_entry.php?id=6445
(Japheth): "The problem is: I modified this himem thing mainly for myself, I don't regard myself as "maintainer". So, since I don't have a working 386 computer anymore - and probably also won't buy one on Ebay anytime soon -, it might take a while until a patch is released." (on BTTR Forum under thread "FreeDOS' contributor" on Apr. 7, 2009). However, IIRC, RayeR personally verified both the bug and fix on his old 386 laptop. So it would be prudent, IMO, to update this (though admittedly old 386s are rare machines nowadays). >> What bloat? > > 80 MiB ? http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/openwatcom/1.8/ ow18-dos-full.7z 02-Jul-2009 14:38 6.3M ow18-dos-full.zip 02-Jul-2009 14:57 13M http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/openwatcom/1.9/ open-watcom-c-dos-1.9.exe 29-Jun-2010 03:02 80M open-watcom-c-dos-1.9.exe.md5 29-Jun-2010 02:09 60 open_watcom_1.9.0-src.zip 29-Jun-2010 02:57 50M Like I said, the "full" distribution has host and target capabilities for many OSes, so it's much bigger. Plus, it's really just a big .ZIP sfx (slightly inefficient compression these days) vs. something superior like 7-Zip. >> > UNTGZKIR >> I can't recall anyone working with (gzip'd) TAR files under DOS. > > They are still common. It's very good and not bloated and (see below) ... Heh, you have a habit of renaming things, making them unrecognizable. Anyways, here you're referring to Steve Kirkendall's public domain untar.c, which is indeed good. Yes, it compiles, I've built it with OpenWatcom (-d_WATCOM_LFN_), UPX'd it, and it was only like 19 kb. ftp://ftp.cs.pdx.edu/pub/elvis/ >> Although you left out some important things > > for example ??? I didn't say the list would be complete .... > > Packers: > > ### UPX ... but what one ??? Official (has evil NRV) ? Rugxulo's NO-NRV binary > (can't decompress NRV) ? A decompress-only version (not yet observed) ? It's not that NRV is "evil", it's just closed source. So the FSF (and Jim Hall) would prefer UPX-UCL instead, which I've indeed compiled with DJGPP (even latest 3.07, which isn't on iBiblio yet). It unpacks NRV stuff fine, it's just open source. But yeah, UCL packs slightly worse than NRV, but LZMA method is better anyways (and also open source). https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/upx-uclx.zip?attredirects=0 https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/upx-ucls.zip?attredirects=0 > ### IUP (still has the BrewTemp-AH=$5A-BUG) I don't see a lot of requests for this one. But yeah, there's some tmpfile bug (DOS5 vs. DOS6 ??). ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/pack/iup067.zip > ### 7ZDECWAT (from major versions 4.65 or 9.20 please) https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/7zdec912.zip?attredirects=0 > File Managers: > > RITDN or NDN or DNOSP ??? RIT's DN has been dead for ten years. NDN (from March 2010) is probably best but closed source. DNOSP (real or pmode) is now abandoned, though DN/2 had a DOS release (surprisingly) a few years back too. http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/dn/ http://www.dnosp.com/e_index.php http://ndn.muxe.com/ >> OpenWatcom already includes a few extenders > >> (though not D3X [non-commercial] nor WDOSX [LGPL?]), >> but its DOS/32A is very old (7.x vs. 9.1.2), for no good reason. > > 7.xx is NOT that obsolete. Please pressure them to kick DOG/4SW first. 9.1.2 is from 2006 (!) and yet they still include 7.xx instead. Why?? Maybe they have a good reason, but I doubt it. And I doubt they will ever drop DOS/4GW, not sure if they rely on any specific features of it for the compiler proper (and tools) or not. http://dos32a.narechk.net/index_en.html >> We definitely need latest DOS/32A as separate package plus CWSDPMI r7 >> (and maybe r5 2008 just for safety). HX is definitely needed too for >> various reasons. Other than that, probably not. > > Add D3X and possibly WDOSX ... they don't add much bloat. I don't think we'll ever have enough moral support for ever including those, sadly. https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/d3x-090h.zip?attredirects=0 http://tippach.business.t-online.de/wdosx/ I personally think we must include CWSDPMI r7, and I can't think of any reason not to (though I know you disagree for some obscure reason). http://homer.rice.edu/~sandmann/ ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2misc/ http://djgpp.cybermirror.org/current/v2misc/ >> RayeR has been too busy to work on MUPDF/DJGPP further. >> It's a nice beta, but it's far from finished. > > It mostly works and there is nothing better around. If no more updates, > add as-is (maybe Un-UPX the binaries ?). While I don't really "disagree" (from a pragmatic view), that will clearly never happen. >> > > UNTGZKIR http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/untgzkir.zip >> > I can't recall anyone working with (gzip'd) TAR files under DOS. >> DJGPP's DJTAR can already unpack those > > where to download (binary-source+dox) ? Also TAR.BZ2 in ONE pass ? Yes, I think DJTAR does indeed do it all in one pass (in memory). It's in DJLSR204.ZIP (.bz2 support too). >> glob bug (accidental overwrite if not > > BUG ??? There is a tiny flaw, though :-| Well, yes, that's a flaw when you say "fbmd5 *.exe", and it overwrites your second .EXE!! OOPS! (Surely there's a simple fix, but I never bothered looking it up.) >> archive above is only .BAS + .PNG, which isn't ideal, IMHO. > > HEH ??? It has DOS and Win32 binaries too ... No it doesn't, not the one you linked to above. 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