On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 8:34 AM Bret Johnson <bretj...@juno.com> wrote:

> > RHV is based on oVirt which is based on KVM plus qemu & libvirt &
> > lots of other bits. It'll run DOS but you might have jump through
> > hoops (learn virsh and other tools) to get it installed.
> >
> > BHyve, at least as in TrueNAS Core and OSX/Mac OS before M1 will
> > also run DOS.
> >
> > I think it's at least worth documenting DOS on TrueNAS Core, TrueNAS
> > Scale, Proxmox, Unraid, Linux+Cockpit (which should look like KVM)
> > and maybe Xen/XCP-NG as well as popular x86 emulators for RPi if
> > feasible.


>
Do you actually have any of these installed and working?
>

Apologies. Got busy with work. I have more time this week.

But, definitely, I have VMware ESXi/vSphere up and it can do nested virt.
I have TrueNAS Core (virtualized) up as well but getting TrueNAS Core,
TrueNAS Scale, Proxmox, Unraid, Linux+Cockpit, XCP-NG on BM should be easy
though bit tedious and time consuming.  I've done RHV/oVirt before, not my
favorite and probably more prevalent in Enterprise and Professional
environments rather than someone who might be interested in FreeDOS.

Contact me offline w/a testing plan or directions of what you're looking
for me to accomplish.



>
> I'm trying to figure out the best way to handle this moving forward.  At a
> minimum, we should move it to its own thread -- and maybe it doesn't even
> belong in a FreeDOS thread.  But I'm sure several people in here would be
> interested (I'm pretty sure at least Jim would be VERY interested).
>
> Just FYI, it doesn't seem possible to create a generic "I'm running in a
> VM of some sort" test.  You need to test for each VM individually, and they
> all do different things that may or may not allow you to detect them.  Of
> course, that means you need to know about every possible VM out there both
> now and in the future (and I've never even heard of some of those you
> mentioned above before now).  I've got about six different methods I've
> found to detect various VMs (some through research on the Internet and some
> though experimentation).  In some VMs several of the methods work and in
> other VMs none of them work (at least not reliably).  In can also vary
> depending on whether you're using and old or new version of the VM.
>
> There are also cases where there is "cross-linking" between the VMs,
> especially in Linux.  E.g., once you install KVM (Kernel Virtual Machine)
> in Linux it seems to "infect" the other VMs so it's hard to tell them apart
> (they seem to look like KVM).
>
> If you actually have some of these installed and working, I can "tweak up"
> a version of ISLOADED so you can do some testing for me (that's what I've
> been working on for the last several days in my copious free time).  Are
> you interested?
>
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