Hi,
> On Jun 5, 2024, at 7:40 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
> <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
> Wilhelm Spiegl wrote:
>>
>> Hi, its once again me.
>> At the fd gitlab account there is a game called row4, (four in a row) see:
>> https://gitlab.com/FreeDOS/games/row4
>> This version is out of date.
>> There is an update at the programmers site, see:
>>
>> https://akfoerster.de/dl/software/dos/fdos/ROW4.ZIP
>> The game runs in english.
>> Would it be possible to enable an upload via fdnpkg or to add it in FDT2407?
>
> Jerome Shidel wrote:
>> Thanks for point out the package was out of date. I updated the the
>> version in the FreeDOS GitLab Archive and uploaded it to the package
>> repository on Ibiblio.
>>
>> However as I am sure you have noticed, the game is not currently
>> provided on any of the release media.
>>
>> I’m not sure why and do not recall why that is the case. The game is
>> licensed as GNU Affero General Public License, version 3 or later. Since
>> games seem to be one the areas users want and we include nearly all the
>> games we have whose license permits it, perhaps we should reconsider
>> excluding it from the release. We generally seem to set the bar fairly
>> low when it comes to games.
>
>
> I'm not sure why it wasn't included either. I don't see a note about
> row4 on the wiki: (I don't see any text about "row" on that page - I
> get one match for "browse")
>
> https://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/Releases/1.3/Packages#Games
>
> Was row4 part of the release candidates for 1.3? Those would have been
> the programs I was evaluating for licenses.
>
> At a guess, did the licenses not match up? The above wiki page lists a
> few games that I asked not to include because (for example: Beyond The
> Titanic) the game said "public domain" in some places and "GNU GPL" in
> others - and "shareware" on the loading screen. All the license info
> needs to match up.
>
> But you're right that we have been very flexible with games. We
> decided we can swap out games since they are not "core" like other
> programs are, but they are fun to play - but some games are popular
> for a while then people tire of them.
Looking around on the ibiblio and my server:
I do not see it the Update Repositories for 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 or unstable on
ibiblio.
There is a version that has a timestamp from 2019 in the ibiblio mirrored
files.
I have three versions in my update repo timestamped 2017, 2019 and the new
version 2023.
The FreeDOS GitLab archive has 2 versions from 2019 and the new one.
So, my conclusion is it is something I found a back in 2017 and just included
on my server.
Then later, Jim found it as well in 2019 and mirrored it to ibiblio.
Then when I set up the FreeDOS Gitlab Archive, I included it there for possible
inclusion.
But, we probably did not evaluate it for inclusion for an unknown reason. That
was several years ago and I do not recall why. Possibly, it just got forgotten.
It was released after a while after FreeDOS 1.2 but long before 1.3.
Looking at it now:
The author releases it as “GNU AGPLv3”
Sources are marked as GNU GPLv2+, GNU GPLv3+, CC0, GNU AGPLv3+
I don’t see a reason that would require it to be excluded.
So, I recommend including it with the release starting with T2407.
:-)
Jerome
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