Hello Tom, Actually they aren't. The decimal separator is arguably ' (see below), but the thousand separator is universally accepted (and known) as . in Spain (and NEVER the ,).
As for the decimal separator, there's a typical controversy between "official" and "widespread". The official symbol is ' (as stated in official national public agencies, I can't remember if the "Spanish language academy" or by scientific (physics) academies). However, few people actually uses it, or what's more, few people would ever know (and what's worse accept it) as decimal separator. Although I myself remember being taught to use ' in School, the common belief between Spaniards is that the decimal separator is the , (and NEVER the .). Even in Microsoft Windows and other programs (MS-Excel), they have by default , (so perhaps a reason to change our COUNTRY setting, although it was myself who suggested to use the official ' ). Just for an extra bit, there's another similar discussion with the capital vowels and diacritics. A very old rule stated that the capital letters would NEVER accept a diacritic sign (thus, ÁÉÍÓÚÜ should NEVER be used, you write AEIOUU as the capitals for áéíóúü). However, the Spanish language academy changed their mind (I think about three decades ago) as they judged that not using them may lead to ambiguous or illegible words. However, not many people knows it, and there are quite some that haven't bothered to check it and will swear that you MUST never used ÁÉÍÓÚÜ. Aitor 2007/6/27, Tom Ehlert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > I've seen one bug right now, shouldn't Spain be "34"? > > according to http://www.vfrazee.com/ms-dos/6.22/help/country.htm - yes > unfortunately I took the 33 from a VERY old kernel35, the current has > a 34 > > but still > >> ".", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> "'", /* Decimal point - by aitor */ > > look swapped > > Tom > > > > > (Can't remember if the DOS country codes are the ones used in > > telephony, but in such case, it's definitely 34). > > > Aitor > > > 2007/6/27, Tom Ehlert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> BTW: > >> country=33 (spain) would be perfekt, it it wasn't buggy > >> (1000's/decimal point swapped) > >> > >> /* Spain */ ,{ > >> 33, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage */ > >> 850, > >> _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> "EUR", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> ".", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> "'", /* Decimal point - by aitor */ > >> "-", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres */ > >> } > >> > >> Tom > >> > >> > >> > >> >> Is there any way to set up manually all configurations for the > >> >> COUTRY.SYS > >> >> settings? I mean, how could I decide exactly which character I want to > >> >> use > >> >> for decimals, which for hundreds separator, how to display the date > >> >> etc...? > >> > >> >> I know that I can choose between various countries standards, but none > >> >> of them > >> >> fills all my needs. > >> > >> >> What I would like to have is: > >> >> Date format: dd.mm.yyyy > >> >> Time format: hh:mm > >> >> Decimal separator: " . " > >> >> Hundreds separator: " ' " > >> >> Currency: € (I don't know if FreeDOS is storing the currency anywhere) > >> > >> > enter into CONFIG.SYS: > >> > country=49 (german) > >> > >> > gets pretty close to what you want (even for the stable kernel), > >> > >> > >> > see the other possibilities below, hard compiled into the kernel. > >> > >> > the currency is probably irrelevant, no program ever cared > >> > >> > Tom > >> > >> > >> > >> > FIXED country settings: > >> > >> > struct CountrySpecificInfo specificCountriesSupported[] = { > >> > > >> > /* US */ { > >> > 1, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 437, > >> > _DATE_MDY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "$", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > ",", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ".", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > "/", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_12 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* Canadian French */ ,{ > >> > 2, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 863, > >> > _DATE_YMD, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "$", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > ",", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ".", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > "-", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* Latin America */ ,{ > >> > 3, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_MDY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "$", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > ",", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ".", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > "/", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_12 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* Russia - by arkady */ ,{ > >> > 7, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 866, > >> > _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "RUB", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > /* should be "\xE0", but as no codepage > >> > support exists (yet), better to leave > >> > it as 'Rubels' > >> > */ > >> > " ", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ",", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > ".", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 3, /* Currency format : currency follows, > >> > after blank */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* DUTCH */ ,{ > >> > 31, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "EUR", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > ".", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ",", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > "-", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* Belgium */ ,{ > >> > 32, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "EUR", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > ".", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ",", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > "-", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* France */ ,{ > >> > 33, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "EUR", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > ".", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ",", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > "-", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* Spain */ ,{ > >> > 33, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "EUR", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > ".", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > "'", /* Decimal point - by aitor */ > >> > "-", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* Hungary */ ,{ > >> > 36, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "$HU", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > ".", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ",", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > "-", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* Yugoslavia */ ,{ > >> > 38, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "$YU", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > ".", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ",", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > "-", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* Italy */ ,{ > >> > 39, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "EUR", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > ".", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ",", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > "-", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* Switzerland */ ,{ > >> > 41, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "SF", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > ".", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ",", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > ".", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* Czechoslovakia */ ,{ > >> > 42, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_YMD, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "$YU", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > ".", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ",", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > ".", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* UK */ ,{ > >> > 44, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "\x9c", /* Pound sign */ > >> > ".", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ",", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > "/", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* Denmark */ ,{ > >> > 45, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "DKK", /* */ > >> > ".", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ",", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > "-", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > /* Sweden */ ,{ > >> > 46, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_YMD, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "SEK", /* */ > >> > ",", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ".", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > "-", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* Norway */ ,{ > >> > 47, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "NOK", /* */ > >> > ",", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ".", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > ".", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* Poland */ ,{ > >> > 48, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_YMD, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "PLN", /* michael tyc: PLN means PoLish New > >> > zloty, I think) */ > >> > ",", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ".", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > ".", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* GERMAN */ ,{ > >> > 49, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "EUR", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > ".", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ",", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > ".", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 1, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* Argentina */ ,{ > >> > 54, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "$ar", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > ".", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ",", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > "/", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 1, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_12 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > >> > /* Brazil */ ,{ > >> > 55, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "$ar", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > ".", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ",", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > "/", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 1, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* International English */ ,{ > >> > 61, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_MDY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "$", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > ".", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ",", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > "/", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > >> > /* Japan - Yuki Mitsui */ ,{ > >> > 81, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage */ > >> > 932, > >> > _DATE_YMD, /* Date format: > >> > 0/1/2:U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "\x81\x8f", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > ",", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ".", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > "/", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_12 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > >> > /* Portugal */ ,{ > >> > 351, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "EUR", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > ".", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ",", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > "-", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0, /* = 0 # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 houres > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > >> > /* Finland - by wolf */ ,{ > >> > 358, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 850, > >> > _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "EUR", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > " ", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ",", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > ".", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 0x3, /* # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 hours > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > >> > /* Bulgaria - by Luchezar Georgiev */ ,{ > >> > 359, /* = W1 W437 # Country ID & Codepage > >> > */ > >> > 855, > >> > _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: > >> > U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "BGL", /* '$' ,'EUR' */ > >> > " ", /* ',' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ",", /* '.' # Decimal point */ > >> > ".", /* '-' DateSeparator */ > >> > ":", /* ':' TimeSeparator */ > >> > 3, /* # Currency format (bit array) */ > >> > 2, /* = 2 # Currency precision */ > >> > _TIME_24 /* = 0 # time format: 0/1: 12/24 hours > >> > */ > >> > } > >> > >> > /* Ukraine - by Oleg Deribas */ ,{ > >> > 380, /* = W380 W848 # Country ID & Codepage */ > >> > 848, > >> > _DATE_DMY, /* Date format: 0/1/2: U.S.A./Europe/Japan */ > >> > "UAH", /* Currency */ > >> > " ", /* ' ' # Thousand's separator */ > >> > ",", /* ',' # Decimal point */ > >> > ".", /* '.' 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