I have now a multiboot system without any problem. First disk, first partition WinX first disk second partition: Gnewsense (Ubuntu based)
Second disk first partition Freedos (Old Win98 fat32) Second disk second partition data space second disk third partition Knoppix 5.3.x (DVD version) 2010/8/11 Alain Mouette <[email protected]>: > Knopix is a bit old, but I usualy dualboot with Ubuntu. This is the easy > path: > > * FreeDOS should be in the first primary partition (sda1) > * the partition should be set active. > * Use grub, Ubuntu configures it automaticaly, but calls it "windows" > > FreeDOS will not boot from extended partitions, and there are > *sometimes* problems with other primary partitions (but I have done it) > > Alain > > Em 11-08-2010 19:20, david lowe escreveu: >> Has any FreeDOS user ever dualbooted with Knoppix (DSL)? >> >> > From: [email protected] >> > Subject: Freedos-user Digest, Vol 382, Issue 1 >> > To: [email protected] >> > Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 13:01:57 +0000 >> > >> > Send Freedos-user mailing list submissions to >> > [email protected] >> > >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> > [email protected] >> > >> > You can reach the person managing the list at >> > [email protected] >> > >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> > than "Re: Contents of Freedos-user digest..." >> > >> > >> > Today's Topics: >> > >> > 1. Re: Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client (Someone) >> > 2. Re: Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client (Mike Eriksen) >> > 3. Re: Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client (Ulrich Hansen) >> > 4. Re: Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client (4625) >> > 5. Re: Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client (4625) >> > 6. Re: Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client (Ulrich Hansen) >> > 7. Re: Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client (4625) >> > 8. Re: Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client (Ulrich Hansen) >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Message: 1 >> > Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 19:53:35 -0700 >> > From: Someone <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP >> > client >> > To: [email protected] >> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> > Content-Type: text/plain >> > >> > >> > On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 23:10 -0300, Alain Mouette wrote: >> > > I completly disagree. >> > > >> > > Just today I installed FreeDOS on a brand new Asus board with SATA2 a >> > > gigabit ethernet chip. >> > > >> > > Simple: go to www.netbootdisk.com and create a floppy. After it boots >> > > and detects the NIC, copy it's driver including packet driver. Easy... >> > > >> > > The truth is that if you have an application that is worth using with >> > > FreeDOS, drivers exist :) >> > > >> > > And it is damn fast >> > > >> > > Alain >> > >> > Command line Linux tuned properly is also fast where Linux supports more >> > network cards than Freedos does. Another problem, how did you find out >> > that there is a driver for your particular card? For Linux users, the >> > kernel supports a lot of network cards straight off. >> > >> > Does Freedos support common nics such as: >> > >> > Netgear Fa311/Fa312? >> > >> > Thuderlan dual port 10/100 nics? >> > >> > AOpen nics? >> > >> > Tulip nics? >> > >> > Other nics? >> > >> > I stand by my statement that TCP/IP and DOS are probably not the best >> > combination. DOS does not protect the hardware from programs that >> > execute, because it can't. DOS cannot stop viruses/worms very easily >> > because it doesn't shield the hardware in the first place. This is >> > all the more reason to avoid connecting to global networks from a >> > DOS based environment. >> > >> > How about DOSbox, Virtualbox, and VMWARE nics? Can Freedos use any >> > virtual NICS? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 2 >> > Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 12:32:20 +0200 >> > From: Mike Eriksen <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP >> > client >> > To: [email protected] >> > Message-ID: >> > <[email protected]> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> > >> > On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Someone <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > I question whether TCP/IP is the best way to go in a DOS environment. >> > >> > That depend on your needs. Been a member of the Thinstation Linux thin >> > client team, I have all the lightweight Linux I could wish. My >> > original need came from the need to BIOS upgrade a floppyless Ubuntu >> > box. I ended up by adding the DOS flash program and the BIOS image to >> > a Balder image, make an ISO of it and problem solved. Not very >> > elegant. So I decided to explore if I could make a boot floppy with >> > USB support so I could put the flash program and BIOS image on a >> > writable device and not have to create a new ISO every time (not that >> > it happens often, but now it got a pet project). >> > >> > Having reached this, I wanted more: the ability to download the flash >> > program and the image directly with wget or even a text browser. This >> > is a bit hard to accomplish without TCP/IP :-) I've put the network >> > stack, applications and packet drivers on the floppy due to size >> > restriction on the floppy. It isn't quite working yet, but I think I >> > just need to put a bit more time into it. I see no fundamental >> > obstacles now. >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 3 >> > Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2010 22:16:46 +0200 >> > From: Ulrich Hansen <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP >> > client >> > To: "[email protected]" >> > <[email protected]> >> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> > >> > Am 07.08.2010 03:22, schrieb Someone: >> > > Command line linux is much easier to network than freedos and there >> is a >> > > lot of utility to it. >> > >> > You are right. There is no doubt that GNU/Linux is much better >> > equipped for networking than (Free)DOS. GNU/Linux also runs on old >> > hardware, although it can be difficult (and painfully slow) to >> > install. Modern installers need a lot of resources. I run Debian (Dual >> > boot with FreeDOS) on some 486SX with 20 MB RAM so I know something >> > about that. >> > >> > > Companies aren't releasing dos drivers >> > >> > This is not necessarily true. Two weeks ago we had a discussion about >> > drivers for the RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller >> > in a quite modern Acer Aspire One netbook. As we found out, Realtek >> > still released ODI (Netware) and NDIS (MS Client for DOS) drivers for >> > that NIC, so it can be used with shims as packet drivers for >> > networking in FreeDOS. >> > >> > So even when some companies do not release packet drivers for DOS, the >> > NIC might be still usable. >> > >> > > I question whether TCP/IP is the best way to go in a DOS environment. >> > >> > You are right. Security is an issue. ftpsrv32.exe for instance - one >> > of the few FTP servers that exist for DOS - doesn't ask for a password >> > and opens the whole DOS system for guests. And if you are using WLAN >> > in DOS, you are limited to 802.11b cards with WEP encryption, which is >> > insecure per definition. >> > >> > On the other hand, most TCP/IP networking software in DOS cannot run >> > as TSR. It runs fullscreen in the foreground, which is hard to ignore. >> > So there are no ports unintentionally open. And if you are running a >> > server in DOS you are at least not running anything else. ;-) >> > >> > > For security reasons, most of us probably don't want >> > > our DOS environments to connect directly to the Net, but for >> > > gaming purposes, local area networking can be quite fun. >> > >> > Gaming is one possible purpose of networking DOS machines. Another >> > reason may be the need to run old DOS software that has to have >> > network access. >> > >> > But I think the most important reason people have to network (Free)DOS >> > is simply to be able to exchange data. >> > >> > Modern computers don't have floppies, parallel or serial ports. Old >> > computers don't have USB or SD-cards. Some old computers have CD-Rom >> > but burning CDs for data exchange can be annoying, as Mike Eriksen >> > pointed out. >> > >> > TCP/IP for DOS has been around since the eighties, so it is the common >> > ground for old and new hardware, for DOS and a more modern OS. >> > >> > Just as example: How do I myself exchange data between FreeDOS on my >> > old 486SX laptops and my modern Thinkpad running Ubuntu Lucid? By >> > starting a ftp server in freedos and logging in with filezilla. How >> > else could I do this? By loading MS Client and creating a shared >> > directory. >> > >> > > How about DOSbox, Virtualbox, and VMWARE nics? Can Freedos use any >> > > virtual NICS? >> > >> > I installed FreeDOS in Virtualbox last week. Virtualbox uses a AMD >> > PCnet-Fast III card. A free packet driver "pcntpk.com" for this card >> > is available at: >> > <http://www.crynwr.com/drivers/amdpd.zip> >> > >> > For MS Client you can get the NDIS driver "pcntnd.dos" at: >> > >> <ftp://ftp.dlink.com/NIC/de520/Driver/uncompressed/MSLANMAN.DOS/DRIVERS/ETHERNET/PCNTND/> >> > >> > In Virtualbox the only way to exchange data between the FreeDOS guest >> > and the host (Ubuntu in my case) is to create a network: I use the >> > vbox network adapter in bridged mode. In the FreeDOS guest I run a DOS >> > server in my LAN (behind a router of course) and connect to it from >> > the Ubuntu host with filezilla. I also connected the FreeDOS guest >> > with a scond Virtualbox guest running Windows XP via MS Client in DOS. >> > >> > So yes, you are right: TCP/IP and DOS are probably not the best >> > combination. >> > And no, you are not right: Networking DOS via TCP/IP is still needed >> > for many reasons. >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 4 >> > Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2010 14:18:36 -0700 (PDT) >> > From: 4625 <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP >> > client >> > To: [email protected] >> > Message-ID: <abg1jqj8pymlc3dyp7gdppsnldc3u...@4625> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r >> > >> > 6-Aug-2010 ?????, ? 18:22 ?????, Someone ???????(?) ?????????: >> > >> > > I'd say that Freedos is okay for networking if you have a card that >> > > is supported by open source drivers, but that seems to be a very >> > > short list of cards at this time. I guess the question to ask of >> > > anyone seeking to >> > >> > Does anyone have success experience with "Edimax EN-9130TXL" PCI >> > network adapter on FreeDOS? It looks like EN-9130TXL will work, but I >> > want to be sure. >> > >> > This is how *BSD recognize the EN-9130TXL card: "rl0 at pci0 dev 8 >> > function 0 "Realtek 8139" rev 0x10: irq 10". >> > >> > Attention! I notice to everyone that "ASUS NX1001" PCI network adapter >> > won't work on old motherboard "Giga-Byte i440BX". Windows, *BSD, Linux, >> > they all report that card not pluged into PCI slot. However, on modern >> > motherboard this card work very well. >> > >> > -- >> > /4625 () ???????? ascii ribbon - ?????? ????? ? html ??????? >> > /\ www.asciiribbon.org - ?????? ????????????? ???????? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 5 >> > Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2010 14:19:28 -0700 (PDT) >> > From: 4625 <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP >> > client >> > To: [email protected] >> > Message-ID: <u1vsgdt0ann4n4p2e5j7cnz9s2vfz...@4625> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r >> > >> > 6-Aug-2010 ?????, ? 19:53 ?????,, Someone ???????(?) ?????????: >> > >> > > execute, because it can't. DOS cannot stop viruses/worms very easily >> > > because it doesn't shield the hardware in the first place. This is >> > > all the more reason to avoid connecting to global networks from a DOS >> > > based environment. >> > >> > Are you sure that modern worms are able to intrude? Do you know any >> > modern worm for DOS? >> > >> > -- >> > /4625 () ???????? ascii ribbon - ?????? ????? ? html ??????? >> > /\ www.asciiribbon.org - ?????? ????????????? ???????? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 6 >> > Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 00:21:25 +0200 >> > From: Ulrich Hansen <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP >> > client >> > To: [email protected] >> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed >> > >> > According to a google search, the EN-9130TXL card works with a Realtek >> > RTL8139D chip. >> > >> > Drivers for that chip can be found at Realteks site: >> > >> <http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=6&PFid=6&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false> >> > >> > If you scroll down you find: >> > - a DOS packet driver, >> > - a DOS NDIS driver and >> > - a Novell ODI driver. >> > >> > So I think there is a good chance the NIC will work in FreeDOS. >> > >> > BTW: According to Realtek, the DOS packet driver was updated four days >> > ago (2010/8/4). >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 7 >> > Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 02:30:08 -0700 (PDT) >> > From: 4625 <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP >> > client >> > To: [email protected], [email protected] >> > Message-ID: <f5ijbhfsb9lmvfelsiaodhw5hwo7h...@4625> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r >> > >> > 8-Aug-2010 ?????, ? 00:21 ?????, Ulrich Hansen ???????(?) ?????????: >> > >> > > According to a google search, the EN-9130TXL card works with a >> > > Realtek RTL8139D chip. >> > > >> > > Drivers for that chip can be found at Realteks site: >> > > >> <http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=6&PFid=6&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false> >> > > >> > > If you scroll down you find: >> > > - a DOS packet driver, >> > > - a DOS NDIS driver and >> > > - a Novell ODI driver. >> > >> > I see that, but downloading won't to begin. Download link redirect me >> > to http://www.realtek.com/downloads/ . >> > >> > > BTW: According to Realtek, the DOS packet driver was updated four days >> > > ago (2010/8/4). >> > >> > Good news. >> > >> > -- >> > /4625 () ???????? ascii ribbon - ?????? ????? ? html ??????? >> > /\ www.asciiribbon.org - ?????? ????????????? ???????? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 8 >> > Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 15:01:46 +0200 >> > From: Ulrich Hansen <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP >> > client >> > To: [email protected] >> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed >> > >> > Am 08.08.2010 11:30, schrieb 4625: >> > >> > > I see that, but downloading won't to begin. Download link redirect me >> > > to http://www.realtek.com/downloads/ . >> > >> > It worked for me yesterday after I tried it a few times. 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