Thanks for giving it straight. I was thinking TRIM was a kind
of screen saver for hard drives, keeping over worked cells
from being burned out. I never though about speed since
all cells in solid state devices are accessed at the same speed
no matter where they are on the drive, but they can be damaged
by over use.

cheers
DS
 

On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 17:19:22 +0100 Eric Auer <e.a...@jpberlin.de> writes:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> > Good explanation Thanks
> 
> Not really...
> 
> > In other word TRIM keeps the cells from being over worked,
> > so each cell takes part of the load. This is very new to me.
> 
> No, the disk already distributes the stress automatically.
> But knowing which areas of the disk are currently unused
> helps to do that more efficiently. So it is good but really
> optional if operating system drivers or tools help SSD users
> by providing TRIM data.
> 
> > How can I tell if TRIM is present. Is there a file called 
> trim.exe.
> 
> No there is not. Please read the article first:
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM
> 
> As you can see, TRIM is something reported by the SSD as
> being supported or not. And the filesystem driver may or
> may not provide TRIM data, while tools such as hdparm or
> mdtrim help you to manually provide such data.
> 
> You also see that some drives even have bugs in their TRIM
> support which makes Linux AVOID sending them TRIM data :-p
> 
> You can read the data sheet of your SSD or use tools such
> as Linux hdparm to find out whether your SSD can make use
> of TRIM information if it is available. In that case, you
> can try to use Windows or Linux tools for FAT filesystems
> from time to time to update the TRIM info, or you could
> work towards making special defrag, chkdsk or dosfsck tool
> versions for DOS and add extensions for creation of TRIM.
> 
> Again, it does NOT create any real problem for you to use
> SSD which support TRIM in DOS which does not support TRIM.
> You might have a few percent speed loss of your SSD might
> age a few percent faster, but that is all. You already have
> huge speed losses by using DOS at all because you probably
> have a multi core 64 bit processor, huge RAM and your SSD
> probably supports protocol extensions for multithreaded I/O,
> none of which is supported by DOS anyway - it ignores those.
> 
> So given all the hardware power which you are knowingly
> not using because you limit yourself to DOS, you really
> should not worry about that little bit of TRIM tuning.
> 
> Regards, Eric
> 
> 
> 
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