On 11/24/2021 9:04 PM, dmccunney wrote:
FTP is deprecated and is going away. It is ancient, ill maintained,
and a yawning mass of security holes.
Hmm, sounds like windows.
HTTP is going away in favor of HTTPS, which adds encryption to the
connection. SFTP never caught on. SCP is the protocol of choice in
locked down corporate environments.
Sure, but sftp *does* encrypt the connection.
Essentially, *all* communications must now be encrypted *both* ways,
which requires current encryption protocols baked in. Bare minimum, I
believe this would require an SSH library for DOS.
You missed the bit about the recent update of the DJGPP port of Lynx,
where it said this:
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I did *not* miss it. But it also said JavaScript was *not* supported.
This breaks it for use all over, unless the site ahs accommodations
for things like screen readers. the vast majority of websites in
existence now require access over https, and support for HTML5, CSS3,
SVG, and reasonably current JS engine.to provide anything like a
satisfactory browsing experience.
I disagree. It's perfectly possible to have a satisfactory browsing
experience without javascript. Just because a lot of sites use it
doesn't mean it's necessary. Html5 does the job just fine in most
cases, the problem is that the web designers (or more likely), the
software they use use javascript, and so that's why it's included.
Remember how buggy and slow shockwave was? And yet, it flourished for
years, not because it was secure, but because it was included by default
in so many designers. Javascript is now in the same boat. Javascript is
*not* necessary for a good web experience, it's just being used, because
designers are using the tools they're given, and javascript just happens
to be one of those tools. I'm fairly confident you could delete
javascript from the web in it's entirity, and using other technologies,
most sites could keep working exactly like they do now.
And, for what it's worth, javascript has nothing to do with screen readers.
FreeDOS (and any other form of DOS) is increasingly locked out of
access to the wider world, because it does not and *cannot* support
the methods now used.
Not true.
Saying it doesn't support doesn't mean it can't support them. Windows
didn't/couldn't support said technology until someone wrote the code to
do so. Dos is in the same boat.
Everything has to start somewhere.
Just because something doesn't do something else, that is no indication
as to whether it *can* do that something else.
(Most interest I see in DOS these days is in running old DOS *games*,
where communication with the outside world is not a factor. Those
folks won't care about FTP, and may have never used it.).
Dos also has a very strong following in the industrial world, where
security is important. Since there is no built-in TCP/IP stack in dos,
if your application gets hacked, and crashes, there's no access to the
os. This is a very strong reason for some uses of dos.
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