Hi mart, Eric and all.
Sharing more details, thanks for all these ideas.
Because there is no direct inclusive tool for me with the combination of
adaptive technology I use in Linux, I ssh telnet from my DOS computer into
shellworld using the recently updated sshdos program.
Further, I use ssh from within shellworld itself to reach the dreamhost
workspaces that they provide curtain up distribution INC.
For the record, dreamhost does not really support the programs they
provide on their hosting shells, they simply put them there.
Shellworld, on the other hand, has a vested interest in inclusion, so
incorporates more of a blending, Ubuntu mixed with other tools, some of
which like e-links are compiled with a bit more graphics, same for Links,
and Lynx..the latter has a keystroke that can submit JavaScript only
buttons for example.
In sum, here, not all the text tools are strictly text so to speak.
now for my gmail needs.
mart, my karen.lewel...@gmail.com address not only existed for several
professional services, it provided an inclusive way for me to manage
files, safely communicate on lists, even serve on organization boards.
I have contacts there, files there, data there that losing would be hard
to articulate for me personally.
What that means in terms of mail forwarding is that, for this email, that
door would not be enough.
I have a second email account, lewellen...@gmail.com
That I lost basic html access too after a library visit.
That account has been forwarding to my personal website email, but because
I do not actually see all the email there, like what google may decide is
spam, nor have access to the full inbox, allot of research has been lost.
I do not want to suffer that again.
if I am forthright, I am unsure I have the emotional bondage to deal with
that loss just now.
While I agree with Eric that graphical might not be the solution, I add
the qualifier that it depends on how that tool is constructed. I use
graphical DOS software all the time, wordperfect for example, which
presents stuff to my adaptive tools that lets me read them.
I may download this package and see if it can speak.
especially if that gives me what I require here.
command line does not automatically equal text, or non graphical as it
were.
So, to sum
1. My requirements are a tool that once configured gives me full access
to my gmail information, inbox, sent mail, contacts and the like.
If I am importing that to another service, that is fine, so long as that
provider gives me a tool that blends well with my combination of adaptive
tools.
If not, then I will still need, at least for a while, to send email using
my gmail address, its not just about reading things, its about well
established interactions, personal legal, and professional.
We do have mutt, pine, and alpine here at shellworld.
using them for this goal would depend on
1, if mutt once configured will present my gmail contents in full the way
pine and alpine can, and
2, if I can configure alpine or pine here for gmail, instead of just
setting up a forward..mutt as well I suppose.
Personally, I do not care for alpine, but that is due to the mayhem using
it via dreamhost has been for years, everything from my inbox closing..all
the time, to lost emails, and timeout errors.
Anyway, based on these details, what should be my best next step?
I may need to locate, possibly compensate someone to do the configuring, I
am no programmer to be sure.
With appreciation,
Kare
On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, Mart Zirnask via Freedos-user wrote:
Hi,
On 22/11/2023, Eric Auer via Freedos-user
<freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
Does anybody here have experience with using a squirrelmail
or roundcoube webmail in links? Might need less java script
compared to gmail to use those, and one could forward the
gmail mail to a mail provider with squirrelmail or roundcube.
I did use SquirrelMail in Links & text-mode Linux 1-2 years ago.
IIRC, Navigating frames (which SM uses) was slightly annoying, but doable.
Because it is simple HTML, it should be possible to skip SM's side
pane altogether and only display the mailbox view, though.
Even if it was (due to the frames) not exactly a streamlined
experience, I was definitely able to read and write mails, so for
smaller workloads, it is fine.
There is also the w3m text browser, which had handy vi-like
keybindings etc, but the tables and frames rendering is not as good as
in Links. Apparently there has been a DJGPP-based port, but (after
some googling) it might have been from ~20 years ago.
http://w3m.rocks/
https://github.com/albfan/w3m/blob/master/doc/README (confirmation on
the DOS port)
I can't remember if I ever tried to use Gmail with w3m, though. In any
case, Links was better at this.
I was actually going to suggest the exact same solution (forwarding
Gmail to a SM-based account). I'll very probably have to go the same
route myself, because Gmail's default view always feels a bit "too
much of everything". Or ditch Gmail altogether, finally... :) Not
easy, because it is already tied to a bunch of online services.
FWIW, I have an Unix shell account at sdf.org -- they are using
NetBSD, and here are the mail tools available from the command line:
http://sdf.lonestar.org/index.cgi?faq?EMAIL?02
(I've only used SquirrelMail from them, though, and maybe tested Pine.)
Might be a DOS History 101 level question, but I'm definitely more of
an end-user, so I dare :) -- Historically, what was actually the
reason why DOS didn't catch up with networking (as compared to
Unix-land)? Security issues, the system being single-user, etc? I
remember being somewhat surprised when I realized there really aren't
that many simple mail clients for DOS available.
Best,
Mart
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