On 01/27/2014 03:32 PM, Rob Crittenden wrote:
> Petr Spacek wrote:
>> On 24.1.2014 18:46, Dmitri Pal wrote:
>>> On 01/24/2014 10:39 AM, Rob Crittenden wrote:
>>>> Martin Kosek wrote:
>>>>> When working on release, this question comes to my mind every time -
>>>>> what is
>>>>> the following page good for? :)
>>>>> http://www.freeipa.org/page/Changelog
>>>>> To me, it is usually just an annoyance of the release process. You
>>>>> can simply
>>>>> get all the data with "git log" derivatives, so I do not see a point of
>>>>> maintaining this page.
>>>>> I see benefits of having shortlog in Release pages like [1], but not
>>>>> with this
>>>>> one. I am thus proposing to deprecate it.
>>>>> [1] http://www.freeipa.org/page/Releases/3.3.3
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>> I used to just cherry-pick the big things then figured that some
>>>> people care about everything so switched to that instead. Yes, the
>>>> data is in git, but if one doesn't know git well then it can be hard
>>>> to tell where something was fixed.
>>>> I won't yell if it's dropped, but it's just a cut-n-paste after all.
>>> It is internet search-able and can be easily pointed to in different
>>> follow up materials.
>>> I would rather keep it, but a wiki formatting script might be a good
>>> idea.
>> Our git repo has nice and responsive web interface:
>> https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/freeipa.git/
>> The advantage is that you can read full commit messages so you can see
>> links to tickets in Trac which are not present in shortlog.
>> Given that I think that Changelog wiki page is mostly annoyance, it
>> could simply redirect to repo web interface (may be to listings for
>> specific branches).
> It is useful because you can more easily see what made it into the particular
> dot release rather than finding the patch you want then knowing to search
> backwards for the Become xx.yy commit. I saw it as a poor-man's way of finding
> changes.

Ok, though I still think that git and cgit should be the authoritative source
of searches like this...

> It gets updated 3 or 4 times a year, so it is hardly a burden.

3-4 times? I see 19 updates happening in 2013 in this page. With each release
(even a minor one) we do, we need to do prepare shortlog, apply wiki and the
specific date format and paste it here.

> It is certainly duplicated information and I won't fight any further for it.
> rob

Noted :)


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