On 11/22/2011 04:24 PM, Steven Jones wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I suppose we can break this down into sections based on the components.
>
> For instance the inter-IPA server port communication is covered off 
> well....it needs 7389 for day to day communication, but needs ports 9443 to 
> 9445 for the setup....So I can do a task for that aspect, (which I did).  
> However that isnt on page 10...its deeper into the doc. I dont like repeating 
> info in a doc multiple times so I'd suggest page 10 mentions the above and 
> tells you where to look. 
>
> I would suggest that something similar is needed for client to 
> server.......for instance is 9446? as well as 80 and 443? needed? What actual 
> ports will a IPA enabled client use to talk to IPA?   ie does it need 389, 
> 636 and 88 and 464?  or does it just use 636 and 464? (say)  Non-IPA client 
> what do they use? So if Im RedHat only IPA enabled only I open up less 
> ports......the second I want Ubuntu and Mac I have to open up more.
>
> Looks like we have or can imply enough info for server to external 
> services/communications....so we need DNS and NTP to be open....from page 10
>
> Admin use.....so ssh, and 443, 80?.......when you run kinit admin that talks 
> over what ports?  88? and 464?   Is 9445 used for admin?
>
> It maybe better to have a "visio" diagram(s). A protocal diagram is in the 
> asbuilt I sent you section 4.1.
>
> NB I also write a IPTABLES ruleset before I build the server/workstation and 
> that gets carried over via Kickstart/Satellitte and activated on build.  So 
> once its built I then find that oh I missed one..... I use subversion to hold 
> each server's iptables firewall, I have to go back and edit that file so in a 
> DR or OR situation its all up to date....
>

Added pointer to your mail to the bug.

> regards
>
> Steven Jones
>
> Technical Specialist - Linux RHCE
>
> Victoria University, Wellington, NZ
>
> 0064 4 463 6272
>
> ________________________________________
> From: freeipa-users-boun...@redhat.com [freeipa-users-boun...@redhat.com] on 
> behalf of Dmitri Pal [d...@redhat.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 November 2011 9:49 a.m.
> To: freeipa-users@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: [Freeipa-users] Improvement to documentaion needed for 
> firewalling pls.
>
> On 11/22/2011 03:24 PM, Steven Jones wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I dont find out until I run the script.....its a bit late.  I then have to 
>> raise more change controls and wait.  Also for any application deployment I 
>> have to do a [security] design and say what is opened,  why and if any 
>> sensitive data is transmitted, so I really need this info before I touch a 
>> server at all.  For instance a user id and password is classed as sensitive, 
>> so it has to be encrypted.....by some acceptable standard method and it has 
>> to be adequately encrypted....   So the security portion of the design can 
>> take weeks to get signed off.....if I've missed anything serious I may have 
>> to re-write and submit.. We end up doing this frequently.....sometimes we 
>> even reject a vendor's product because we find it has a fundamental security 
>> flaw....
> What would be helpful is to turn this into Q&A. Can you formulate a set
> of questions a little bit more granular than "Which ports I need to open
> when and why"?
>
>
>> like its transmitting plain text passwords or even storing/caching them 
>> locally in plain text....not that un-common....
>>
> True. But we do not do that except AFAIK one case - password for the CA
> DS instance which is stored locally in the config file available to root
> only.
> But I may be wrong. Is there anything else? Anyone knows?
>
>> regards
>>
>> Steven Jones
>>
>> Technical Specialist - Linux RHCE
>>
>> Victoria University, Wellington, NZ
>>
>> 0064 4 463 6272
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: freeipa-users-boun...@redhat.com [freeipa-users-boun...@redhat.com] on 
>> behalf of Dmitri Pal [d...@redhat.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 November 2011 9:04 a.m.
>> To: freeipa-users@redhat.com
>> Subject: Re: [Freeipa-users] Improvement to documentaion needed for 
>> firewalling pls.
>>
>> On 11/22/2011 02:58 PM, Steven Jones wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> 2.1.3.4 page 10 lists ports but not what happens with them...
>>>
>>> For instance I am now in a very secure environment and find when I do a 
>>> ipa-client-install the client connects to port 80 and retrieves a 
>>> ca.crt........now I have to wait 3 days to get port 80 opened up...to the 
>>> IPA server(s).
>>>
>>> If I had better docs then I can make the request before hand....
>>>
>>> This of course is the first failure.....if say I find that the 
>>> ipa-client-install script uses 443 next I will have to wait another 3 
>>> days......if I find there are 4 un-documented port calls to get an client 
>>> install to work......well its a week to 2 weeks wait....
>>>
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Steven Jones
>>>
>>> Technical Specialist - Linux RHCE
>>>
>>> Victoria University, Wellington, NZ
>>>
>>> 0064 4 463 6272
>>>
>>>
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>> When you install IPA the output of the installation lists all the ports
>> that you need to open and for what service: DNS, Kerberos, LDAP etc.
>> Is this not enough? What level of details you are looking for?
>>
>> --
>> Thank you,
>> Dmitri Pal
>>
>> Sr. Engineering Manager IPA project,
>> Red Hat Inc.
>>
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