Small update so I am not only throwing dirt on winbind:
Winbind has still its use if you can not use / do not have RFC2307 attributes
in AD.
So simply, if you want to use RFC2307 attributes, sssd is here for you. If not, go for winbind. But yet I would not bother about winbind
plugin for sssd as it does not make too much sense - that's why we have Glibc and its /etc/nsswitch.conf!
My 5 cents.
Ondrej
On 12/02/2011 03:36 PM, Ondrej Valousek wrote:
My story is here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=652609
And it seems to go nowhere. So, in quick - I still believe winbind is a piece of crap really (Simo forgives) for the reasons outlined
above in the link.
For the same reasons I believe you, SSSD engineers, are wasting your time with
the winbind plugin.
If configured properly, sssd can do a much better job.
Now I do not know how much AD differs from the IPA domain from the SSSD prospective - so I do not know how much extra work is needed to be
able to properly cope with AD, but I still believe some of the code can be later re-used for pure IPA domains (see the AD sites in DNS for
example).
So in short again, I think SSSD should continue to concentrate its main effort in the IPA integration because we (Linux community)
currently do not have anything else to match Active Directory - and if we get an SSSD-AD integration as a side-effect, well, a nice bonus!
:-)
Ondrej
On 12/02/2011 03:15 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
When we originally designed SSSD, we looked at it as a solution for
dealing with LDAP and Kerberos identity and authentication for Linux and
UNIX clients. With our initial approach, we decided to include only
marginal support for Microsoft's Active Directory as a source of user
information (only supporting it when it is enabled for use with
posixAccount and posixGroup object classes).
Our original assumption was that for complicated deployments relying on
Active Directory, users would prefer to continue using Winbind. It has a
very long history and is specifically designed around managing the
peculiarities of Microsoft's LDAP implementation.
Of late, it has become apparent that many users are opting to "jump
ship" from winbind to SSSD for use with Active Directory. This has been
shown by a sharp uptick in community bug reports with Active Directory
servers.
Up until now, our plans around Active Directory have circulated around
including a "Winbind Provider" into SSSD, similar to the LDAP provider
but making use of the original winbind features found in the Samba
project. However, it's beginning to seem like users are expressing an
interest to move AWAY from that solution.
This may result in a change in our strategy going forward. I'm looking
for users to describe to us the reasons why they're choosing SSSD (in
its current incarnation) over winbind. What I'm trying to sort out is
whether there are specific *issues* with winbind that SSSD is solving
for users. In other words, I'm trying to determine whether our decision
to write and support a winbind provider backend is misplaced.
It may be that if SSSD's LDAP provider is offering a significant
advantage over winbind, we will consider dropping (or deferring) our
efforts to integrate winbind and instead put that effort into adding
Active Directory-specific features into the LDAP provider. For example,
we might reprioritize bugshttps://fedorahosted.org/sssd/ticket/995 and
https://fedorahosted.org/sssd/ticket/996
So please, share with us your stories for why you prefer SSSD over
winbind and help us choose our direction for SSSD's future.
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