On 2012-09-18, at 4:03 PM, Jakub Hrozek wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 02:38:13PM -0400, Michael Mercier wrote:
>> 
>> On 2012-09-18, at 4:03 AM, Jakub Hrozek wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:17:47AM -0400, Dmitri Pal wrote:
>>>>> [root@ipaserver2 ~]ifdown eth0   # NOTE: ipaserver2 is 172.16.112.8
>>>>> 
>>>>> [root@ipaclient ~]# SSSD_KRB5_LOCATOR_DEBUG=1 kinit mike
>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] sssd_krb5_locator_init called
>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] Found [172.16.112.8] in 
>>>>> [/var/lib/sss/pubconf/kdcinfo.MPLS.LOCAL].
>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] sssd_realm[MPLS.LOCAL] requested realm[MPLS.LOCAL] 
>>>>> family[0] socktype[2] locate_service[1]
>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] addr[172.16.112.8:88] family[2] socktype[2]
>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] [172.16.112.8] used
>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] sssd_krb5_locator_close called
>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] sssd_krb5_locator_init called
>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] Found [172.16.112.8] in 
>>>>> [/var/lib/sss/pubconf/kdcinfo.MPLS.LOCAL].
>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] sssd_realm[MPLS.LOCAL] requested realm[MPLS.LOCAL] 
>>>>> family[0] socktype[1] locate_service[1]
>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] addr[172.16.112.8:88] family[2] socktype[1]
>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] [172.16.112.8] used
>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] sssd_krb5_locator_close called
>>>>> kinit: Cannot contact any KDC for realm 'MPLS.LOCAL' while getting 
>>>>> initial credentials
>>>> 
>>>> Jakub, does this make sense to you?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> As stated elsewhere in this thread, bare kinit does not contact the SSSD
>>> at all. You want to go through the PAM stack (with "su - mike" or "ssh
>>> mike@ipaclient") in order to contact the SSSD so that the SSSD refreshes
>>> the file.
>>> 
>>> Does using "su - mike" refresh the file?
>> 
>> When performing an 'su - mike' I will occasionally see a short delay (~2 
>> seconds) when bringing the interfaces up and down on the servers.
>> 
>> e.g.
>> 
>> [root@ipaclient sssd]# su - mike
> 
> ^^ Sorry, but can you re-run the test again and either su from another
> non-root user or ssh into the client for instance? The reason is that
> performing su as root would not contact the SSSD at all either. The
> default PAM configuration for su includes "pam_rootok.so" which just
> returns PAM_SUCCESS if the user who performs su has UID=0.

Hello,

[mike@ipaclient ~]$ su - eric
Password:  # NOTE: no delay
[eric@ipaclient ~]$ exit
logout

[root@ipaserver ~]ifdown eth0

[mike@ipaclient ~]$ su - eric
Password:    # NOTE: there is a delay here, ~5 seconds
[eric@ipaclient ~]$ exit
logout

[root@ipaserver ~]ifup eth0

[root@ipaserver2 ~]ifdown eth0

[mike@ipaclient ~]$ su - eric
Password:   # NOTE: no delay
[eric@ipaclient ~]$exit
logout

[root@ipaserver ~]ifdown eth0

[root@ipaserver2 ~]ifup eth0

[mike@ipaclient ~]$ su - eric
Password:  # NOTE: no delay
[eric@ipaclient ~]$ exit
logout

There does not appear to be any problems when doing an su -.

An addition note is that the ipaclient system had been sitting idle all night.  
Right before starting this test, I had to unlock the workstation.

Thanks,
Mike

> 
> I kinda expect the result to be the same (at least for user who is not
> recently cached) because the case of IPA we need to establish a GSSAPI
> encrypted connection anyway so we'd talk to the KDC only to perform
> initgroups.


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