On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:27:25PM -0400, Dmitri Pal wrote:
> On 09/19/2012 12:11 PM, Jakub Hrozek wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:00:08PM -0400, Michael Mercier wrote:
> >> On 2012-09-18, at 4:03 PM, Jakub Hrozek wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 02:38:13PM -0400, Michael Mercier wrote:
> >>>> On 2012-09-18, at 4:03 AM, Jakub Hrozek wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:17:47AM -0400, Dmitri Pal wrote:
> >>>>>>> [root@ipaserver2 ~]ifdown eth0   # NOTE: ipaserver2 is 172.16.112.8
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [root@ipaclient ~]# SSSD_KRB5_LOCATOR_DEBUG=1 kinit mike
> >>>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] sssd_krb5_locator_init called
> >>>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] Found [172.16.112.8] in 
> >>>>>>> [/var/lib/sss/pubconf/kdcinfo.MPLS.LOCAL].
> >>>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] sssd_realm[MPLS.LOCAL] requested 
> >>>>>>> realm[MPLS.LOCAL] family[0] socktype[2] locate_service[1]
> >>>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] addr[172.16.112.8:88] family[2] socktype[2]
> >>>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] [172.16.112.8] used
> >>>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] sssd_krb5_locator_close called
> >>>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] sssd_krb5_locator_init called
> >>>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] Found [172.16.112.8] in 
> >>>>>>> [/var/lib/sss/pubconf/kdcinfo.MPLS.LOCAL].
> >>>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] sssd_realm[MPLS.LOCAL] requested 
> >>>>>>> realm[MPLS.LOCAL] family[0] socktype[1] locate_service[1]
> >>>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] addr[172.16.112.8:88] family[2] socktype[1]
> >>>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] [172.16.112.8] used
> >>>>>>> [sssd_krb5_locator] sssd_krb5_locator_close called
> >>>>>>> kinit: Cannot contact any KDC for realm 'MPLS.LOCAL' while getting 
> >>>>>>> initial credentials
> >>>>>> Jakub, does this make sense to you?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> As stated elsewhere in this thread, bare kinit does not contact the SSSD
> >>>>> at all. You want to go through the PAM stack (with "su - mike" or "ssh
> >>>>> mike@ipaclient") in order to contact the SSSD so that the SSSD refreshes
> >>>>> the file.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does using "su - mike" refresh the file?
> >>>> When performing an 'su - mike' I will occasionally see a short delay (~2 
> >>>> seconds) when bringing the interfaces up and down on the servers.
> >>>>
> >>>> e.g.
> >>>>
> >>>> [root@ipaclient sssd]# su - mike
> >>> ^^ Sorry, but can you re-run the test again and either su from another
> >>> non-root user or ssh into the client for instance? The reason is that
> >>> performing su as root would not contact the SSSD at all either. The
> >>> default PAM configuration for su includes "pam_rootok.so" which just
> >>> returns PAM_SUCCESS if the user who performs su has UID=0.
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> [mike@ipaclient ~]$ su - eric
> >> Password:  # NOTE: no delay
> >> [eric@ipaclient ~]$ exit
> >> logout
> >>
> >> [root@ipaserver ~]ifdown eth0
> >>
> >> [mike@ipaclient ~]$ su - eric
> >> Password:    # NOTE: there is a delay here, ~5 seconds
> >> [eric@ipaclient ~]$ exit
> >> logout
> >>
> >> [root@ipaserver ~]ifup eth0
> >>
> >> [root@ipaserver2 ~]ifdown eth0
> >>
> >> [mike@ipaclient ~]$ su - eric
> >> Password:   # NOTE: no delay
> >> [eric@ipaclient ~]$exit
> >> logout
> >>
> >> [root@ipaserver ~]ifdown eth0
> >>
> >> [root@ipaserver2 ~]ifup eth0
> >>
> >> [mike@ipaclient ~]$ su - eric
> >> Password:  # NOTE: no delay
> >> [eric@ipaclient ~]$ exit
> >> logout
> >>
> >> There does not appear to be any problems when doing an su -.
> >>
> > I agree. I think that the SSSD fails over just fine.
> >
> >> An addition note is that the ipaclient system had been sitting idle all 
> >> night.  Right before starting this test, I had to unlock the workstation.
> > The unlock (if perfomed through GDM at least) would trigger an auth and
> > by extension going online/offline.
> >
> > What I suspect was happening is that the kinit just contacted a KDC that was
> > present in the kdcinfo files, but down without the Kerberos libraries
> > knowing it was down -- and without a mechanism to tell the SSSD to go
> > and try another server. We're tracking this as a future enhancement..
> 
> Do you have a ticket handy?

We discussed doing it as part of
https://fedorahosted.org/sssd/ticket/941 which might add a new
responder.

> 
> >
> > Thank you for testing, Mike!
> 
> 
> -- 
> Thank you,
> Dmitri Pal
> 
> Sr. Engineering Manager for IdM portfolio
> Red Hat Inc.
> 
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