Good, 

I guess it would be a boring world if we never tried to challenge 
each other... ;)

Tom.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Artur Hecker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 1:15 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: PEAP / MSCHAP2 / LDAP
> 
> 
> that's getting quite consuming, but who says a must say b, right? :-)
> 
> 
> > Please do not take my e-mails personally... I must say that 
> I thought
> > you might be one of those show offs who pick through 
> peoples e-mails looking
> > for mistakes and then completely mis the point of the 
> e-mail. My appologies
> > if I am mistaken.
> 
> i actually almost never reply :-) one thing, if i was a show-off, 
> wouldn't it be much more comfortable for me to take 5 min in order to 
> take a look at the specs and show off even more instead of making 
> assumptions based only on what has been said before? just 
> type "nt-hash" 
> in google :-)
> 
> 
> > I just think you might have misread the post you reacted to.
> 
> perhaps! i will immediately admit that.
> 
> 
> >>It is possible to use PEAP / MSCHAPv2
> >>with LDAP, however one must store the NT-Hash password in 
> LDAP.  I've had the
> >>same problem with crypts as my password encryption in LDAP. 
>  I ended having to
> >>create an extra LDAP attribute for NT-Hash passwords.  
> 
> this is the part which i understand as misleading. since the author 
> talks about crypt, one could suppose that this is the general 
> approach. 
> i.e. if the protocol uses crypt, you should store the 
> crypt-password in 
> the DB, etc.
> 
> you see, when you try to explain the basic problem, you have 
> to insist 
> on the fact that the database and the client must hash the 
> same data, be 
> this data X or hash(X) or DES(X) - it doesn't change 
> anything. this data 
> must be available on both ends, point.
> 
> perhaps my reaction was due to somebody who's recently proposed to me 
> the following "trick" to make PEAP work with backend Unix' system 
> authentication: with the same argument of double hashing, the 
> idea was 
> to type the string stored in the shadow file at the PEAP prompt...
> 
> now after the discussion with you i see that applied to 
> ms-chap the post 
> seems to be correct. that's the reason why i've written "i think that 
> this is wrong" and not "this is wrong" in my original post.
> 
> 
> ciao
> artur
> 
> 
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