Hi Kostas,

It's nice to see Dialup_Admin can handle a large operation!

I realize dialup_admin is in the radiusd CVS - I would have thought it would
have been at least a separate CVS to make allowing others to work with it
directly and not mess with the radiusd CVS - but I suppose it works the way
it is...

Changes or Features that would be nice?

1.  You have the New Group section setup to allow both adding a new group to
the system AND displaying and editing an existing group BUT you have to go
to the Show Groups section to see the actual group names of existing groups.
Would it not make more sense to have a display in the New Group section that
displays existing groups so you don't have to bounce between the two
sections to get the name correct???  If you are using just a few groups then
most likely you will remember the group names but if you have a fair number
of groups to handle different situations (IE: Pre-Paid users, PPP users,
Wireless users, etc, etc) it would make life easier for the admin to work
with the system.

2.  There currently does not exist any method (other than for NAS Clients)
to setup the system or make changes to the system other than using a CLI
(command line interface) to make changes... IE:  If you want to changes
"Hints" because of some additional requirement you currently have to know
how to do so and then use the CLI to perform the task - would it not be
easier for someone to make changes to the system if there were a section
that allowed configuration changes (or initial setups) to the system????

I would think things like Realm configurations, SQL configurations, LDAP
configurations, SNMP configurations and so one would be a nice addition to
the system.  It is not hard to have PHP scripts that generate the required
files and issue a "kill -HUP <radiusd PID> to activate the changes.   This
capability makes it a full featured front-end to the freeradius system
instead of just a "works for specific application front-end" - and as you
said you wrote it because you needed it.  I suspect the basis for the system
was for you specific purpose - nothing wrong with that but I think others
are using different configurations and it could make their administration of
the system easier if it had a more flexible capability.

3.  I am curious - why have all of the settings for NAS attributes in the
New User section AND in the New Group section - would it not make it cleaner
overall to just have the NAS attributes contained in just the groups section
and if there is a specific requirement for an individual user to have
specfic NAS attribute requirements just have a group of their own???   It
seems to me it is more confusing to someone new to the freeradius system to
have both locations where NAS attributes can be set instead of just the
requirement that the user have a unique group (the group name could be the
username) for NAS attributes and all other users that have the same NAS
attribute requirements be in the same group with thost NAS attributes
identified?

You wanted to know some specifics [grin]...

As for the warning message about variables not being defined - current
thinking is if there is a variable that is checked within the body of a
script but is not passed to the script you should at least test to see if
the variable exists and if not define the varible with a default value - the
reason is to preclude someone attempting to hack the script ( of course you
should also test the variables passed to the script to make sure the values
being passed are within the range you expect as well and take appropriate
action if it is not - there is currently a buffer overflow in the maximum
memory used section of PHP prior to the current release that can allow a
hacker total access to the computer! - this was just released in the last
few days in the security mailing lists I belong to... ).

Now - having said all that I think you did a pretty good job on the
dialup_admin overall!!!

I read a posting here about modularizing the program to allow easier
modification - that would be a nice thing but not totally a requirement...
It does need better documentation but what program does not???
More comments in the body of the scripts would be a nice addition just so
someone can follow the thought-process as to why things are done the way
they are...

Please take this in the manner in which it is intended - I am not flaming
the program at all!!!

gm...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kostas Kalevras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin


> On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Gary McKinney wrote:
>
> > Kostas,
> >
> > Are you also a user too??? [grin]...
>
> Yes, dialupadmin is used in both my university (ntua.gr/15000 users) and
in the
> greek school network (sch.gr/150000 users). In the latter there are around
100
> people using it (delegated user administration) with no problems.
>
> I wrote dialupadmin cause i needed it.
>
> >
> > Kidding aside - is there some place where the dialup_admin is being
> > maintained (CVS) and where freatures can be added to the code (not to
> > mention bringing the code up to current levels) ???
>
> Have you tried freeradius CVS? dialup_admin is RIGHT there.
>
> And please, when someone speaks about bringing the code to current
levels,adding
> features,making it stable,wearing dialupadmin a nice skirt can you please
be
> specific? I am quite tired of people criticizing dialupadmin or any other
piece
> of freeradius without specifying what they think is wrong or lacking.
Obviously
> the last one was not something personal, it's just that i am getting quite
tired
> of criticism without any suggestions.
>
> >
> > BTW:  I have not setup the database side completely yet but you can see
the
> > latest version of dialup_admin at the following url:
> > http://www.ewcllc.net/dialup - like I said, I have not completely set
this
> > up yet but it is better than plain ole screen shots [grin]...
>
> That's quite nice.
>
> >
> > gm...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kostas Kalevras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 9:11 AM
> > Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
> >
> >
> > > On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote:
> > >
> > > > are you currently using dailupadmin
> > >
> > > Actually i am the writer.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Kostas Kalevras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:46 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > This solution will be avaible in perl and biferno too. Also more
> > > > features
> > > > > > that I will disclose soon. first let me know ur expectations.
WIll
> > you
> > > > join
> > > > > > me???
> > > > >
> > > > > I really don't see any point in reinventing the wheel. Why not
just
> > add
> > > > the
> > > > > extra features in dialupadmin instead of creating a new one?
> > > > > expectations: dialup_admin/doc/TODO
> > > > > Also see dialup_admin/doc/HELP_WANTED
> > > > >
> > > > > As for joining, sorry I 've already got an interface that suits my
> > needs
> > > > and is
> > > > > in constant development. The question would be why abandon it for
a
> > new
> > > > one?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Amit
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Kostas Kalevras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:01 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: New Opensource project-AAAadmin
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Amit Gupta wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi friends ,
> > > > > > > >     I have decided to develop opensource project-AAAadmin.
Its
> > URL
> > > > is
> > > > > > > > aaaadmin.sourceforge.net. I invite you to share your
> > expectations
> > > > from
> > > > > > such
> > > > > > > > solution. I also invite you to join development.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What's wrong with dialupadmin?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Amit Gupta
> > > > > > > >
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