On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Alan DeKok <[email protected]> wrote: > Aaron Turner wrote: >> FWIW, I've been migrating my project (tcpreplay) from Auto* to Cmake. >> It's a huge win if you're targeting Win32 (which I know freeradius >> isn't), but I've been pretty happy with it under various flavors of >> UNIX as well. Syntax is sane, it's well maintained and good active >> community. > > Hmm.. it's also C++ (ugh), and about 300K LoC. But yes, it works, and > lots of people use it.
I've never felt the need to hack on Cmake or Autotools so the size or language choice wasn't a factor. > One of my requirements is that *normal* people can do builds with a > standard Unix SH and Make. That means the build system should generate > old-style Makefiles. I also think that the build system *itself* should > never be installed. That way lies madness. It is annoying you need Cmake install to do a build, but I figure 95% of my users are installing pre-built packages and the other 5% are advanced enough to figure it out. 20 years ago when everyone was building everything from source rather then installing binary packages, it would of been a deal breaker for me too, but things have changed sufficiently that I'm willing to accept it. > I've had too many problems over the years with a project using a > "wonderful" build system... that requires me to download it and 40 > dependencies... then the *latest* version of the build system isn't > compatible with the project, so I have to find an old version of the > build system... > > autoconf, et. al. are horrible, but they satisfy my requirements, and > they don't have the problems noted above (except for libtool and > libltldl, wich should *die*) Honestly, if Auto* does what you need, then it's probably not worth moving to another system. I can't say I was "happy" with autoconf/automake but it worked and when I got bug reports from users I was able to fix them without too much effort. As I said, the reason I moved to Cmake was I wanted a unified build system for my Win32 port and Cmake allows me to generate standard Makefile's, and XCode/MSVC++ project files. If it wasn't for that, I'd still be using Auto* even though I find it impossible to master regardless of effort- I always felt like I'm just getting by and there's gotta be a better way of doing things, but I never can figure it out. -- Aaron Turner http://synfin.net/ Twitter: @synfinatic http://tcpreplay.synfin.net/ - Pcap editing and replay tools for Unix & Windows Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin "carpe diem quam minimum credula postero" - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html

