So, read_label could be used to load the label in, and then that could be used 
to pull out the relevant vertices from the .thickness and .sulc files?
Also, is there a straightforward way of converting the final column in the 
.sulc file into mm (as in mm sulcal depth)?



Alex Fornito
M.Psych/PhD (clin. neuro.) candidate
Melbourne Neuropsychiatry Centre and Department of Psychology
The University of Melbourne
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Fischl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri 23/12/2005 11:29 AM
To: Fornito, Alexander
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Freesurfer] Sulcal depth
 
I think they are volume RAS coords, with 0,0,0 at the center of the volume. 
I think we distribute a read_label.m or load_label.m that can read it into 
matlab.

On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Fornito, Alexander wrote:

> Famous last words, but seems simple enough. Will give it a try. Would 
> just like to clarify what the columns represent in curvature files after 
> converting to ascii: The first volumn is the vertx id. The next three 
> columns are the xyz co-ords. The rightmost column is the actual 
> 'curvature value', e.g., in thickness file, it's the thickness associated 
> with that vertex, in the sulc file, it's the integrated the distnace the 
> node moves during inflation, etc.. In which case, for extracting sulcal 
> and gyral regions separately, I'd need to split vertices based on the 
> sign of the final column in the sulc file.
>
> Another question: are the xyz coords talairach or native coords? They're 
> not surface coords are they? I would've thought surface coords would be 
> in 2D (although I have been known to get it completely wrong form time to 
> time!).
>
> Alex Fornito
> M.Psych/PhD (clin. neuro.) candidate
> Melbourne Neuropsychiatry Centre and Department of Psychology
> The University of Melbourne
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Fischl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Fri 23/12/2005 10:36 AM
> To: Fornito, Alexander
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Freesurfer] Sulcal depth
>
> sure, just sum them separately. Would be easy to do in matlab (we did it
> in our PNAS thickness paper)
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Fornito, Alexander wrote:
>
>> What it require a lot of work? What would be the odds of somehting like that 
>> happening in the near future? :)
>>
>> On another issue, if the .sulc file encodes dinsitguises between sulcal and 
>> gyral regions with positive and negative signs, is it possible to extract 
>> the thickness of sulcal and gyral regions separately? I remember seeing a 
>> posting about this some time ago, bu can't seem to find it again.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> Alex Fornito
>> M.Psych/PhD (clin. neuro.) candidate
>> Melbourne Neuropsychiatry Centre and Department of Psychology
>> The University of Melbourne
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bruce Fischl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Fri 23/12/2005 9:30 AM
>> To: Fornito, Alexander
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Sulcal depth
>>
>> not all that easily, although I guess we could write out something from
>> mris_inflate that has the units of mm.
>>
>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Fornito, Alexander wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>> From my understanding, ?h.sulc can be used to measure sulcal depth.
>>> I'm wandering if it is possible to use this to get the depth of a sulcus 
>>> within an ROI, and if so, how you would extract the relevant measures, 
>>> i.e.., would it be obtainable through mris_anatomical_stats?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> Alex Fornito
>>> M.Psych/PhD (clin. neuro.) candidate
>>> Melbourne Neuropsychiatry Centre and Department of Psychology
>>> The University of Melbourne
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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