Can you run paint-sess with the -debug option and send us the output?

On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 03:36:50PM +0000, Jane Aspell wrote:
> hi again
> 
> we've been trying various things to get mk-fieldsign to work: installing the
> development version of freesurfer and trying it on a different computer, but 
> we
> get the same error message. We thought that perhaps mk-fieldsign doesn't have
> the same access permissions as the other tcl scripts or that it's not actually
> looking in the same directory as for, e.g. tksurfer.tcl for which it gives the
> full path:
> 
>   surfer: using interface /home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcl/tksurfer.tcl
>   Read /home/jaspell/freesurfer/surface_labels.txt, found 95 structures
>   tksurfer: run tcl script: mk-fieldsign.tcl
> 
> we are still stuck so would be really grateful for any tips!
> thanks very much,
> Jane
> 
> 
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bruce
> Fischl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > hmmm, do you have it? If not, I've attached a copy.
> > 
> > cheers,
> > Bruc
> > e
> > On Tue, 3 Jan 2006, Jane Aspell wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I would be really grateful if someone could help me with the problems I am
> > > having with mk-fieldsign. Even after installing a new version of 
> > > freesurfer and
> > > making various changes to libraries etc. when i run:
> > > "paint-sess -sf sessid -a rtopy -hemi rh" i get the error below:
> > >
> > > tksurfer: run tcl script: mk-fieldsign.tcl
> > > couldn't read file "mk-fieldsign.tcl": no such file or directory
> > >
> > > even though mk-fieldsign.tcl is in the same directory as tksurfer.tcl 
> > > (which
> > > works fine).
> > > i am running Red Hat Linux release 9 (Shrike) and installed from
> > > freesurfer-Linux-rh9-v2.2.tar.gz
> > >
> > > any idea what to do?
> > > thanks again for your help!
> > >
> > > Jane
> > >
> > >
> > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nick
> > > Schmansky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >> Jane,
> > >>
> > >> Concerning the libraries libitk3.2.so and libitcl3.2.so, Freesurfer does
> > >> not use these libraries any more (I think the older -20040218 release
> > >> did, however).
> > >>
> > >> Do you have the environment variable ITCL_LIBRARY defined in your
> > >> startup .cshrc file?  You can test if it is set by typing (in csh or
> > >> tcsh):
> > >>
> > >>   env|grep ITCL
> > >>
> > >> If it is set (which it might be, from your older freesurfer
> > >> installation), then it should be deleted or commented-out from
> > >> your .cshrc (or possibly it was placed in your
> > >> $FREESURFER_HOME/SetUpFreeSurfer.csh file).
> > >>
> > >> You can also just type this:
> > >>
> > >>   unsetenv ITCL_LIBRARY
> > >>
> > >> and then try tkmedit.
> > >>
> > >> If this is not the problem, can you tell me which OS you are running?
> > >> Type:
> > >>
> > >>   cat /etc/redhat-release
> > >>
> > >> and
> > >>
> > >>   uname -a
> > >>
> > >> A last ditch effort is to install the itcl libs, from this site:
> > >>
> > >>  http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=itcl
> > >>
> > >> But this should not be necessary, as tkmedit that you have does not use
> > >> this library (I am truly puzzled why 'ldd' shows that it needs these
> > >> libs).
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Nick
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 11:40 +0000, Jane Aspell wrote:
> > >>> hi nick
> > >>>
> > >>> when i type >ldd `which tkmedit` i get the ouput pasted below this 
> > >>> email.
> > >>> libitk3.2.so and libitcl3.2.so are not found - could be the problem?
> > >>>
> > >>> uncommenting 'source ${FSL_DIR}/etc/fslconf/fsl.csh' in 
> > >>> FreeSurferEnv.csh
> > >>> (and typing 'unsetenv TCLLIBPATH') had no effect.
> > >>>
> > >>> an earlier version of freesurfer(freesurfer-20040218) didn't give me 
> > >>> any of
> > >>> these problems and tkmedit etc worked fine.
> > >>>
> > >>> also, does ANYONE know how to interpret the colour coding (for 
> > >>> fovea/vertical
> > >>> meridian etc) produced by the FsFast retinotopy analysis?!
> > >>>
> > >>> thanks again!
> > >>>
> > >>> jane
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> ldd `which tkmedit`
> > >>>  libtix8.1.8.3.so =>
> > >>> /home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib/libtix8.1.8.3.so 
> > >>> (0x40017000)
> > >>>         libtk8.4.so =>
> /home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib/libtk8.4.so
> > >>> (0x40051000)
> > >>>         libtcl8.4.so =>
> > >>> /home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib/libtcl8.4.so (0x40111000)
> > >>>         libglut.so.3 => /usr/lib/libglut.so.3 (0x401ba000)
> > >>>         libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x401ef000)
> > >>>         libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x401f8000)
> > >>>         libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x40210000)
> > >>>         libXi.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x40226000)
> > >>>         libGLU.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1 (0x4022e000)
> > >>>         libGL.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 (0x402ab000)
> > >>>         libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x402ef000)
> > >>>         libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x403ce000)
> > >>>         libtiff.so.3 => /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3 (0x403ed000)
> > >>>         libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x4042e000)
> > >>>         libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x4045b000)
> > >>>         libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0x40469000)
> > >>>         libpthread.so.0 => /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 (0x4048b000)
> > >>>         libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x42000000)
> > >>>         libitk3.2.so => not found
> > >>>         libitcl3.2.so => not found
> > >>>         libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4049a000)
> > >>>         libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4049e000)
> > >>>         libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x404f0000)
> > >>>         libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x404ff000)
> > >>>         libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x405b2000)
> > >>>         /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nick
> > >>> Schmansky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >>>> Jane,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This is an unusual error, since tkmedit and tksurfer do not use the ITK
> > >>>> library.  To figure out how libitk3.2.so is being referenced, can you
> > >>>> send me the output of this command:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>   ldd `which tkmedit`
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I suspect there is some conflict between the FSL setup and Freesurfer,
> > >>>> as FSL does use ITK, and Freesurfer does not, but performs the FSL 
> > >>>> setup
> > >>>> (as a convenience to MGH-NMR users).  Along this line, one option is to
> > >>>> edit the file FreeSurferEnv.csh (found in your $FREESURFER_HOME) and
> > >>>> comment-out this line:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>   source ${FSL_DIR}/etc/fslconf/fsl.csh
> > >>>>
> > >>>> like this:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> # source ${FSL_DIR}/etc/fslconf/fsl.csh
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Another option is to type this after sourcing the freesurfer setup 
> > >>>> file:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>   unsetenv TCLLIBPATH
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This last option is just a guess at a fix though.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Nick
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 15:37 +0000, Jane Aspell wrote:
> > >>>>> hi
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> i installed a newer version of freesurfer (using download
> > >>>>> freesurfer-Linux-rh9-v2.2.tar.gz) but when i try and run tkmedit or
> > > tksurfer i
> > >>>>> get the error:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> "error while loading shared libraries: libitk3.2.so: cannot open 
> > >>>>> shared
> > > object
> > >>>>> file: No such file or directory"
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> this is my output when i source SetUpFreeSurfer.csh:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Setting up environment for FreeSurfer/FS-FAST (and FSL)
> > >>>>> FREESURFER_HOME /home/jaspell/freesurfer
> > >>>>> FSFAST_HOME     /home/jaspell/freesurfer/fsfast
> > >>>>> SUBJECTS_DIR    /home/jaspell/freesurfer/subjects
> > >>>>> FUNCTIONALS_DIR /home/jaspell/freesurfer/sessions
> > >>>>> MINC_BIN_DIR    /usr/pubsw/packages/mni/current/bin
> > >>>>> MINC_LIB_DIR    /usr/pubsw/packages/mni/current/lib
> > >>>>> TCLLIBPATH      /home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib
> > >>>>> FSL_DIR         /usr/local/fsl
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> and these are the contents of 
> > >>>>> /home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> blt2.4/            libBLTlite24.a         libtclstub8.4.a
> > > libtk8.4.so*
> > >>>>> tix8.1/
> > >>>>> libBLT24.a*        libBLTlite.2.4.dylib*  libtix8.1.8.3.so
> > > libtk.so.0*
> > >>>>> tixConfig.sh
> > >>>>> libBLT.2.4.dylib*  libBLTlite.a           libtix8.1.8.4.so
> > > libtkstub8.4.a
> > >>>>> tk8.4/
> > >>>>> libBLT.2.dylib*    libtcl8.4.so*          libtixsam8.1.8.4.so  tcl8.4/
> > >
> > >>>>> tkConfig.sh
> > >>>>> libBLT.a*          libtcl.so.0*           libtix.so.0          
> > >>>>> tclConfig.sh
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> any idea how to fix it?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> i don't suppose there's a way of updating an old version of freesurfer
> > > without
> > >>>>> reinstalling the entire (new version) package?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> thanks!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> jane
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Doug
> > >>>>> Greve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> That's a pretty old version. Can you download and install a new 
> > >>>>>> version?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I actually don't know that much about the interpretation of the color
> > >>>>>> wheel. Maybe Nouchine or Sari can help with this.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> doug
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Jane Aspell wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> hi again
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> i'm still really stuck with my retinotopy analysis as i'm not sure 
> > >>>>>>> if my
> > >>>>>>> version of paint-sess $Id: paint-sess,v 1.2 2003/08/06 00:53:50
> > > greve Exp $
> > >>>>>>> FAST Version 20031218) has a bug in it (it doesn't make the field 
> > >>>>>>> sign
> > >>> map). i
> > >>>>>>> originally downloaded freesurfer-20040218-Linux.tar.gz (for RedHat 
> > >>>>>>> 9).
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> also, can someone also confrim the colour coding is: red=upper
> > > field/fovea,
> > >>>>>>> blue=horizontal meridian/parafovea, green=lower visual 
> > >>>>>>> field/periphery?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> i can't work out what the overlay threshold settings should be in
> > >>> tksurfer to
> > >>>>>>> correctly display the colours to code the retinotopy, is there some
> > >>> rationale
> > >>>>>>> for choosing them?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> thanks a lot for your help!
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Jane
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> In message
> > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug
> > >>>>>>> Greve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> What version of freesurfer (and paint-sess) are you using? This 
> > >>>>>>>> was a
> > >>>>>>>> problem in some versions about 6 mo ago, but I thought I fixed them
> > >>>>>>>> all.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> doug
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Thu, 24 Nov 2005, Jane Aspell wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> hi again
> > >>>>>>>>> I have been proceeding with the retinotopy analysis using FsFast,
> > >>>>>>> following the
> > >>>>>>>>> instructions at:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > > https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsFastIndividualRetinotopyAnalysis
> > >>>>>>>>> and i believe i have successfully overlaid the results on my
> > > surfaces and
> > >>>>>>> now
> > >>>>>>>>> have two questions:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> i wasn't able to create the fieldsign with 'paint-sess' because it
> > >>>>>>> couldn't find
> > >>>>>>>>> tksurfer.new. when i run 'surf-sess' i use the flag -old which
> > > forces it
> > >>>>>>> to use
> > >>>>>>>>> tksurfer.old but this doesn't work in the former case. how can i 
> > >>>>>>>>> make
> > >>>>>>>>> 'paint-sess' use tksurfer.old and thus create the fieldsign?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> there are no instructions on how to relate the colours seen when
> > > viewing
> > >>>>>>> eccen
> > >>>>>>>>> and polar to the location of the ring and wedge. is there a map
> > > somewhere
> > >>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>> can be loaded that tells me what order the colours run from fovea 
> > >>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>> periphery
> > >>>>>>>>> and from vertical to horizontal meridian etc.?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> thanks again for your help!
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> jane
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>> Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
> > >>>>>>>> MGH-NMR Center
> > >>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>>>>>> Phone Number: 617-724-2358
> > >>>>>>>> Fax: 617-726-7422
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
> > >>>>>> MGH-NMR Center
> > >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>>>> Phone Number: 617-724-2358
> > >>>>>> Fax: 617-726-7422
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
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> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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> -- 
> Dr Jane Aspell
> Department of Experimental Psychology, University of Oxford,
> South Parks Road, Oxford, OX1 3UD      
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