That explains a lot about my problem subjects.

Just to confirm, I should use mri_label2label with fsaverage as the source
subject and the subject in question as the target? Having this run for all
of my subjects will then allow me to use mris_anatomical_stats for each
subject.

Thanks for the help!


On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Douglas N Greve
<[email protected]>wrote:

> The label that you sent applies to fsaverage. If you want to use it on a
> different subject, you should map it to that subject with mri_label2label
> doug
>
>
>
>
> On 05/28/2013 03:00 PM, Rob Tennyson wrote:
>
>> The labels are built from areas that showed between-group functional
>> differences. I am able to view the label on the subject in question in
>> freeview.
>>
>> Maybe I'm looking at the wrong place in the output of mris_info? Or
>> perhaps in the wrong file. I looked at "nvertices" in our "lh.white" file.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Douglas N Greve <
>> [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected].**edu<[email protected]>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     how did you create the label? If it has more vertices than the
>>     subject has then something is very wrong. You don't always get
>>     segfaults, you might just get garbage and never know it.
>>     doug
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 05/28/2013 02:32 PM, Rob Tennyson wrote:
>>
>>         Hi Doug,
>>
>>         It appears that the subject I'm having the PHC issue with has
>>         fewer than 163798 vertices - it has 123249 vertices - however,
>>         it seems that all of our subjects have fewer vertices and I do
>>         not run into an error with any other subjects with this label.
>>
>>         Also, I'm able to load the label onto my data in freeview
>>         without any issue. I'm having some problems opening my
>>         surfaces with tksurfer on my lab desktop, though. Should I
>>         upload the subjects in question so you can take a look?
>>
>>         Thanks!
>>         Rob
>>
>>
>>         On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Douglas N Greve
>>         <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected].**edu<[email protected]>
>> >
>>          <mailto:[email protected].**edu <[email protected]>
>>         <mailto:[email protected].**edu <[email protected]>>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>             Nothing looks like it is wrong with that label. Can you verify
>>             that the white surface has not been changed since the
>>         label was
>>             created? Check how many vertices the white surface has with
>>             mris_info. The PHC label references a vertex index as high as
>>             163798. If the white surface does not have that many
>>         veritices,
>>             then that could cause the problem.
>>             doug
>>
>>
>>
>>             On 05/28/2013 10:33 AM, Rob Tennyson wrote:
>>
>>                 Hi Doug,
>>
>>                 Attached are the three labels I'm having an issue with
>>         (each
>>                 with a different subject). These are built from areas
>>         that we
>>                 found functional differences between a healthy control
>>         group
>>                 and a MDD group. I was going to take a look at the
>>         anatomical
>>                 stats to see if there are thickness or volume
>>         differences as well.
>>
>>                 I am also going to review the white surface soon as Bruce
>>                 suggested.
>>
>>
>>                 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Douglas N Greve
>>                 <[email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected].**edu <[email protected]>>
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>>                 
>> <mailto:[email protected].**edu<[email protected]>
>>         <mailto:[email protected].**edu <[email protected]>>>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>                     Rob, can you send me your label?
>>
>>                     doug
>>
>>                     On 05/27/2013 01:00 PM, Rob Tennyson wrote:
>>                     > Hi All,
>>                     >
>>                     > I'm running "mris_anatomical_stats" with a few
>>         manually
>>                 defined
>>                     > labels. For a few of my subjects, I am getting
>>         the error:
>>                     > "Segmentation fault" on one of the labels.
>>         However, the
>>                 other
>>                     manually
>>                     > defined labels process without any errors on
>>         these same
>>                 subjects.
>>                     >
>>                     > For example, I am running "mri_anatomical_stats" on
>>                 subject 33_bay6
>>                     > with a manually defined ERC label, a manually
>>         defined
>>                 PHC label,
>>                     and a
>>                     > manually defined medial frontal gyrus label. The
>>         only
>>                 label that
>>                     runs
>>                     > an error for this subject is the PHC label. This PHC
>>                 label runs
>>                     > without any errors on the rest of my subjects.
>>                     >
>>                     > Here is what is displayed when running a label
>>         that fails:
>>                     >
>>                     > "> mris_anatomical_stats -f PHC.stats.04.txt -l
>>                 lh.PHC_1.label -b
>>                     > 33_bay6 lh
>>                     > limiting computations to label lh.PHC_1.label.
>>                     > reading volume
>>                 /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/**33_bay6/mri/wm.mgz...
>>                     > reading input surface
>>                     >
>>         /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/**33_bay6/surf/lh.white...
>>                     > reading input pial surface
>>                     >
>>         /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/**33_bay6/surf/lh.pial...
>>                     > reading input white surface
>>                     >
>>         /Volumes/BigRaid/Rob/subjects/**33_bay6/surf/lh.white...
>>                     > Segmentation fault"
>>                     >
>>                     > Does anyone know what may be causing the
>>         Segmentation
>>                 fault and what
>>                     > steps I should take to fix it?
>>                     >
>>                     > Thank you for your help!
>>                     > Rob
>>                     >
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