thanks, I ran mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ --cache 1.3 abs MTA_ADHD_MJ is my project file and has the results from qdec in it
it has produced: lh-Avg-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat lh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat lh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat rh-Avg-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat rh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat rh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat these files have 120 rows. each row has a thickness value s example 2.71869 2.52448 2.50450 2.53677 2.58363 2.50404 2.42116 2.61757 2.51820 2.59009 2.42524 2.72043 2.59479 2.38014 2.41052 2.58483 2.49214 2.45870 2.51685 2.62981 2.59232 it appears that there is the thickness for each subject in the files I would like to have the thickness value, for each cluster, for every subject we have 120 subjects, with about 40 clusters Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu> Cc: "freesurfer" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:30:31 PM Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates OK, sorry, I thought qdec was running a script called mri_glmfit-sim but it appears to be running the correction internally. That means that you will have to run mri_glmfit-sim yourself, something like mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir glmdir --cache 1.3 abs doug On 12/10/2013 02:53 PM, Jon Wieser wrote: > i have a mri_glmfit.log,(attached) but no cache.mri_glmfit-sim.log in the > qdec output directory > Jon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> > To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>, Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:42:37 PM > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates > > > Is there a cache.mri_glmfit-sim.log in the output folder? Can you send > it to me? Also, please remember to post to the list. thanks! > doug > > > On 12/10/2013 02:30 PM, Jon Wieser wrote: >> FS version 5.3 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> >> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>, Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu >> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:05:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates >> >> >> hmmm, it should be there. What version of FS are you using? >> >> >> >> On 12/10/2013 12:57 PM, Jon Wieser wrote: >>> i was getting the values for the command terminal, when I press the "find >>> clusters and GOTo Max" button on the qdec GUI. >>> there is no file named cache.th20.abs.y.dat or something similar. i did a >>> "find" command to list all the *abs*.dat files in the directory >>> >>> qdec/MTA_ADHD_MJ/lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat >>> qdec/MTA_ADHD_MJ/lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th20.pdf.dat >>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat >>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat >>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat >>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat >>> qdec/Untitled/lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> these files contain: >>> >>> # CSD PDF/CDF >>> # simtype null-z 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1663.918701 0.000000 0.000100 0.000391 35.852306 >>> 0.000000 0.715900 >>> 95 1679.441040 0.000000 0.000100 0.000353 36.207584 >>> 0.000000 0.715900 >>> 96 1694.963257 0.000000 0.000100 0.000318 36.562862 >>> 0.000000 0.715900 >>> 97 1710.485474 0.000000 0.000100 0.000287 36.918144 >>> 0.000000 0.715900 >>> 98 1726.007812 0.000000 0.000100 0.000259 37.273422 >>> 0.000000 0.715900 >>> 99 1741.530029 0.000100 -0.000000 0.000234 37.628700 >>> 0.715900 0.000000 >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> >>> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu> >>> Cc: "freesurfer" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> >>> Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 5:02:41 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates >>> >>> which file did you look in? It should have a name like >>> cache.th20.abs.y.ocn.dat >>> >>> On 12/09/2013 05:09 PM, Jon Wieser wrote: >>>> I found data for the average thickness all subjects for each cluster, but >>>> I haven't found the individual subject's thickness for each cluster. can >>>> you direct me to that data? >>>> Jon >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> >>>> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu> >>>> Cc: "freesurfer" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 2:15:39 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates >>>> >>>> It is in one of the output files. Look for the .dat file in >>>> mri_glmfit-sim --help >>>> >>>> On 12/09/2013 03:01 PM, Jon Wieser wrote: >>>>> thanks doug, >>>>> >>>>> We've run a 2x2 analysis for thickness in Qdec and want the get the >>>>> average thickness value for each cluster, for each subject. >>>>> How can i get a table of thickness data , for feach subject in the >>>>> analysis >>>>> Jon >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> >>>>> To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu >>>>> Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 1:48:15 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Jon, QDEC does not currently allow more than one covariates of >>>>> interest. You will have to use the command-line stream (ie, >>>>> mris_preproc, mri_surf2surf, mri_glmfit, mri_glmfit-sim) >>>>> >>>>> doug >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/05/2013 02:57 PM, Jon Wieser wrote: >>>>>> HI freesurfer experts >>>>>> >>>>>> I want to do an analysis in qdec with 2 groups(ADHD, and Marijuana >>>>>> usage) and 2 covariates(age and gender) to study the effect of these >>>>>> factors on cortical thickness. I can only select a covariate in the qdec >>>>>> gui. is there a way to select both covariates in the qdec GUI? >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Jon >>>>>> -- Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D. MGH-NMR Center gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Phone Number: 617-724-2358 Fax: 617-726-7422 Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting FileDrop: https://gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/filedrop2 www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html Outgoing: ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/ The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. 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