Dear Martin and FS experts,

I have a small follow-up question regarding the post below. Given a young 
sample where ICV is still growing, that I want to control for this and that the 
data look ok: Can I use the cross-sectional ICV as a covariate in analyses on 
the longitudinal data? Or will this introduce any bias?

In other words, does “the longitudinal stream assumes head size is fixed across 
time” affect the estimated long values when this assumption is incorrect?

Best regards,
Christian K Tamnes


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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] ICV for adolescent and young adult in longitudinal 
stream

Hi Knut,

the longitudinal stream assumes head size is fixed across time. That is
why we report only one ICV (the one from the within subject template) in
all time points. If in your data heads are growing still, you can still
use the longitudinal stream, but need to be carefully inspecting your
data (e.g. are surfaces OK in both time points, is the skull strip good
etc).  You can also read out the individual ICV on each time point when
looking at the cross sectional directories (first step of the long
pipeline), there in aseg. stats are the ICV's for each time point.

Best, Martin



On 10/13/2014 12:24 PM, Knut J Bjuland wrote:
> Dear FreeSurfer export,
>
> I have used the longitudinal stream in FreeSurfer. However, when I
> extracted the ICV for adolescents and young adult, I get the same number
> for those subjects that are present at two-time points.  Will
> registration to a common space cause the change in ICV? Can this change
> explain why the icv is equal at 15 and 19 years of age for all my
> subjects with two-time points?
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Knut Jørgen Bjuland
> PhD candidate
> NTNU
> Trondheim
>
>
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