Hi Martin,

Thank you for your help and clarifications.  I did run the *_to_table
commands and now my LME analyses are running smoothly.

Best,

Jennifer Legault

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Martin Reuter
<mreu...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
> Hi Jennifer,
>
> if you are interested in volumes from the stats file, you need to use
> aseg_stats_to_table and aparc_stats… to stack those data across subjects and
> time points into a single table that you then analyze with the LME tools.
> mris_preproc is only for stacking surface maps.
>
> The longitudinal QDEC file can be the same, you only need it to tell
> aseg_stats_2_table etc how to create the file names for the individual
> *.long.* directories. So that file only needs 2 columns (fsid, fsid-base )
> for that. And maybe you want to pass other covariates (e.g. time from
> baseline, average age, gender etc) into LME via that same qdec table. The FS
> stats (e.g. either thickness maps, or stats tables) will be read separately.
>
> If you still have difficulties with the long QDEC file, try using space
> separated instead of tab!
>
> You don’t smooth the volume data. Look at the *_to_table commands to
> generate the tables.
>
> Best, Martin
>
>
> On Mar 6, 2015, at 5:09 PM, Jennifer Legault <jlegaul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
> I am new to Freesurfer and have run my participants’ data through the
> longitudinal preprocessing stream and am now trying to assemble my data so
> that they can be put into a linear mixed effect model analysis.  While the
> longitudinal tutorial with cortical thickness data is very helpful, I am
> interested in GM volume (specific ROIs in aseg. + the lh and rh aparc.
> files) and have run into a few problems.
>
>
> 1) Problem with mris_preproc command/with QDEC file:
>
>
> a) I have made a Longitudinal QDEC file (attached in this comment as an
> excel file and .dat file) and I made sure to export to my Subjects dir, and
> then put in the following command:
>
> mris_preproc  --qdec-long  long.qdec.table.dat  --target fsaverage  --hemi
> lh --meas volume  --out lh.volume.mgh
>
> When I run this command, it only runs for my first participant (which it
> takes from the Longitudinal QDEC file, such that if I take out the first row
> of the QDEC file, it starts with the next participant)
>
> I do not receive any sort of error message or anything, it just doesn’t keep
> running.  Furthermore, I cannot find the output file (lh.volume.mgh)
> anywhere in my subjects directory.
>
> b) I am also wondering whether I need to make separate QDEC files for 1)
> aseg data 2) lh.aparc and 3) rh.aparc. Right now, my QDEC file has all of
> the information of interest in one place.
>
> c) I made the QDEC file in excel, and saved it as tab delimited (when I try
> to save it as space delimited (.prn--which I rename as .dat) and re-open it,
> it loses many of my headers and data). Does it have to be space delimited,
> and if so, is there another way of formatting it as space delimited?  If
> not, then is there something else wrong with my QDEC format?
>
>
> 2) I do not know whether I am supposed to smooth the volume stack.
>
> According to my understanding of the Longitudinal tutorial, we should first
> run mris_preproc to concatenate our files and resample volume data to a
> common subject.  Next, we should smooth the stacked/concatenated file.
> Should I use the following command:
>
> mri_vol2surf --src input file --hemi hemisphere --fwhm 10 --out outpufile
>
>
> Thank you for taking the time to read this email, I sincerely appreciate it.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Jennifer Legault
> Ph.D candidate, Neuroscience
> Brain, Language, and Computation Lab
> The Pennsylvania State University
>
>
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> Jennifer Legault
> Ph.D candidate, Neuroscience
> Brain, Language, and Computation Lab
> The Pennsylvania State University
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The Pennsylvania State University

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