Hi Martin,
When doing cross-sectional analysis on a longitudinal data set and the qdec
table is ordered as followed:

fsid Gender Group Age
d115a.long.d115_base 1 1 19
d120a.long.d120_base 0 1 22

Why does the presmoothing not have to be:
recon-all -s d115a.long.d115_base -qcache
recon-all -s d120a.long.d120_base -qcache

instead of

recon-all -long d115a d115_base -qcache
recon-all -long d120a d120_base -qcache

Cheers,
Kasper

2016-03-11 17:52 GMT+01:00 Martin Reuter <[email protected]>:

> Hi Kasper,
>
> That needs to be the cross-sectinal name (whenever you also pass a base,
> it will automatically create the ..long.. names internally).
>
> cheers, Martin
>
>
>
> On 03/11/2016 08:51 AM, Kasper Jessen wrote:
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> Thanks for the answer :-)
>
> To presmooth the data onto target, with the following command:
>
> recon-all -long <tpid> <baseid> -qcache
>
> The <tpdi>, does that have to be the longitudinal name (
> d115a.long.d115_base) or the cross-sectional name (d115a)?
>
> Best wishes
> Kasper
>
> 2016-03-09 22:38 GMT+01:00 Martin Reuter <[email protected]>:
>
>> Hi Kasper,
>>
>> short answer: yes.
>>
>> long answer
>> 1. yes
>> 2. yes (you need to create a table in cross sectional format (no
>> fsid-base column) and the fsid needs to be the tp.long.base names for
>> baseline visit. the path should point to where these *.long.* directories
>> are located).
>> 2. yes (fsaverage should be linked there anyway, right?)
>> 3. yes
>>
>> ;-) Martin
>>
>>
>> On 03/09/2016 03:42 PM, Kasper Jessen wrote:
>>
>> Dear FreeSurfer experts,
>>
>> We have a longitudinal study design with up to 5 time points. However, we
>> both want to do a baseline cross-sectional analysis and later a
>> longitudinal analysis. All subjects have been run through the longitudinal
>> pipeline (only the base was edited). We want to start analysing baseline
>> cross-sectionally using QDEC. I have read through the wiki guides but would
>> like to make sure that we are doing it correctly. We have done/plan to do
>> the following:
>>
>> 1. The [CROSS], edited [BASE] and [LONG] is processed.
>>
>> 2. We will create a qdec table called qdec.table.dat. However, because we
>> want to use the improved longitudinal runs [LONG] (i.e., because the [BASE]
>> has been edited] the first column in the QDEC table (i.e., fsid) has been
>> changed to include the longitudinal names (please see below). In addition,
>> we have included the line *SUBJECTS_DIR /my/path/to/subject/data* to let
>> FreeSurfer know that it is the longitudinal directories that should be used
>> (is this the correct why to let FreeSurfer know that it is the
>> "longitudinal runs" which should be used?).
>>
>> SUBJECTS_DIR /my/path/to/subject/data
>> fsid Gender Group Age
>> d115a.long.d115_base 1 1 19
>> d120a.long.d120_base 0 1 22
>> ...
>>
>> 2. We transfer the default fsaverage to the subject directory.
>> 3. To presmooth the data onto the target we run the following command: 
>> *recon-all
>> -long <tpid> <baseid> -qcache*
>>
>> When the above steps are done we plan to load it into QDEC.
>>
>> Is the above steps correct for doing a cross-sectional group analysis in
>> QDEC?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Kasper Jessen
>> MD, PhD student
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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