try it with the noconform as the first argument. I think it will ignore it at the end



Hi Dr. Fischl
I ran the following mri_average and consistently get this message. It seems
to be trying to read my output as one of the input volumes. If I don't
specify an output it re-writes my last file in the input folder and when I
try to open this it doesn't work at all.

What exactly does MRIchangeType mean?



(navigated to folder with all .mgz volumes want to average)
mri_average *.mgz test.mgz --noconform

1 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-102_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
2 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-103_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
3 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-104_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
4 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-105_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
5 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-106_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
6 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-107_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
7 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-108_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
8 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-109_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
9 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-110_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
10 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-111_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
11 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-112_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
12 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-113_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
13 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-114_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
14 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-115_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
15 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-116_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
16 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-117_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
17 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-118_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
18 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-119_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
19 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-120_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
20 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-121_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
21 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-122_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
22 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-123_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
23 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-124_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
24 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-125_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
25 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-126_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
26 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-127_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
27 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-131_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
28 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-133_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
29 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-134_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
30 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-135_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
31 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-137_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
32 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-139_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
33 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-140_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
34 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-141_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
35 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-142_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
36 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-143_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
37 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-144_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
38 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-145_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
39 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-146_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
40 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-150_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
41 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-158_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
42 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-200_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
43 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-201_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
44 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-203_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
45 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-204_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
46 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-205_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
47 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-209_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
48 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-340_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
49 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-347_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
50 of 51: reading fsaverage_overlay_aalf_icbm-350_left.mgz...
embedding and interpolating volume
MRIchangeType: Building histogram 
51 of 51: reading test.mgz...
mghRead(/data-01/trisanna/freesurfer/fsaverage/DISPLAY_overlays_fsaverage_l
eft/aalf_lh/test.mgz, -1): could not open file
mri_average: MRIread(test.mgz) failed


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Integrated Program in Neuroscience
Psychology


On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
wrote:
      no problem.

      Bruce
      On Sun, 19 Jun 2016, Trisanna Sprung-Much wrote:

            thanks Dr. Fischl - I think sometimes my emails
            don't get sent out on the
            first try and so I resend - don't mean to spam
            everyone.
            Don't know how I missed the mri_average option - I
            think I need vacation
            too.

            thanks and have a lovely Sunday!

            Trisanna

            --
            Ph.D. CandidateMcGill University
            Integrated Program in Neuroscience
            Psychology


            On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Bruce Fischl
            <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
            wrote:
                  Hi Trisanna

                  Doug is on vacation and his response time is
            likely to be pretty
                  slow. If any emails go unanswered you should
            repost them in a
                  week or two.

                  As for this, if you overlays are mapped to
            fsaverage you can
                  just use mri_average to average them.

                  cheers
                  Bruce



                  On Sun, 19 Jun 2016, Trisanna Sprung-Much
            wrote:

                        Hi Doug

                        So all of my overlays for each subject
            have been
                        registered to fsaverage
                        using mri_surf2surf. I am now wondering
            how I could
                        create an average in
                        "fsaverage space" using these overlays -
            I
                        understand that
                        mris_make_average_surface is an option
            but I cannot
                        seem to find whether
                        this works for overlays and not just
            surfaces
                        (white, pial). I want to take
                        each subject overlay on fsaverage and
            average them
                        to get a probability map.

                        thanks

                        --
                        Ph.D. CandidateMcGill University
                        Integrated Program in Neuroscience
                        Psychology


                        On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 5:48 PM,
            Trisanna
                        Sprung-Much
                        <trisanna.sprung-m...@mail.mcgill.ca>
            wrote:
                              Hi Doug

                        So all of my sulci for each subject have
            been
                        registered to fsaverage
                        using mri_surf2surf. I am now wondering
            how I could
                        create an average
                        of a sulcus using these overlays - I
            understand that
                        mris_make_average_surface is an option
            but I cannot
                        seem to find
                        whether this works for overlays and not
            just
                        surfaces (white, pial). I
                        want to take each subject overlay on
            fsaverage and
                        average them to get
                        a probability map for a single sulcus.

                        thanks

                        Trisanna

                        --
                        Ph.D. CandidateMcGill University
                        Integrated Program in Neuroscience
                        Psychology


                        On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 6:25 PM,
            Trisanna
                        Sprung-Much
                        <trisanna.sprung-m...@mail.mcgill.ca>
            wrote:
                              worked beautifully. Thank you!

                        --
                        Ph.D. CandidateMcGill University
                        Integrated Program in Neuroscience
                        Psychology


                        On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Douglas
            N Greve
                        <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
                              Try surf2surf with --mapmethod nnf

                              On 06/15/2016 04:25 PM, Trisanna
            Sprung-Much
                        wrote:
                              > Hi Doug - yes they do actually,
            I was quite
                              pleased. I did some trials
                              > with other subjects and the
            mri_vol2surf all
                        looks
                              good. Very similar
                              > to what I had in our in-house
            software.
                              >
                              > Would things be better if I were
            to isolate
                        each
                              sulcus as a .label
                              > and then try the
            mri_label2label? Someone
                              suggested perhaps the
                              > colours are overlapping with the
            overlay....
                              >
                              > --
                              > Ph.D. Candidate
                              > McGill University
                              > Integrated Program in
            Neuroscience
                              > Psychology
                              >
                              >
                              > On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:10 PM,
            Douglas N
                        Greve
                              > <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
                             
            <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:
                              >
                              >     The problem is probably that
            the
                        vol2surf
                              command did not properly
                              >     sample the labels onto the
            surface. Do
                        the
                              labels on subject 00350
                              >     surfaces look ok?
                              >
                              >     On 06/15/2016 04:00 PM,
            Trisanna
                        Sprung-Much
                              wrote:
                              >     > thanks Dr. Fischl
                              >     >
                              >     > So the command seems to
            have worked! I
                        have
                              copied what ran in my
                              >     > terminal. When I open the
            test.mgz
                        overlay
                              on the fsaverage pial
                              >     > surface, things look ok
            but a bit
                        funny. I
                              am wondering if there is
                              >     > anything I can do to the
            mri_surf2surf
                              command to improve the
                              >     > registration to fsaverage?
            *See my
                        snapshots
                              attached.*
                              >     >
                              >     > trisanna@kaplan:~$
            mri_surf2surf
                              --srcsubject 00350 --sval
                              >     >
                             
                       
            /data-01/trisanna/freesurfer/00350/surfaceoverlay_left.mgz
                              >     > --trgsubject fsaverage
            --tval test.mgz
                              --hemi lh
                              >     > srcsubject = 00350
                              >     > srcval     =
                              >   
                             
                       
             /data-01/trisanna/freesurfer/00350/surfaceoverlay_left.mgz
                              >     > srctype    =
                              >     > trgsubject = fsaverage
                              >     > trgval     = test.mgz
                              >     > trgtype    =
                              >     > srcsurfreg = sphere.reg
                              >     > trgsurfreg = sphere.reg
                              >     > srchemi    = lh
                              >     > trghemi    = lh
                              >     > frame      = 0
                              >     > fwhm-in    = 0
                              >     > fwhm-out   = 0
                              >     > label-src  = (null)
                              >     > label-trg  = (null)
                              >     > OKToRevFaceOrder  = 1
                              >     > Reading source surface reg
                              >     >
                             
                       
            /data-01/trisanna/freesurfer/00350/surf/lh.sphere.reg
                              >     > Loading source data
                              >     > Reading target surface reg
                              >     >
                             
                       
            /data-01/trisanna/freesurfer/fsaverage/surf/lh.sphere.reg
                              >     > Done
                              >     > Mapping Source Volume onto
            Source
                        Subject
                              Surface
                              >     > surf2surf_nnfr: building
            source hash
                              (res=16).
                              >     > Surf2Surf: Forward Loop
            (163842)
                              >     >
                              >     > surf2surf_nnfr: building
            target hash
                              (res=16).
                              >     > Surf2Surf: Reverse Loop
            (166912)
                              >     > Reverse Loop had 41306
            hits
                              >     > Surf2Surf: Dividing by
            number of hits
                              (163842)
                              >     > INFO: nSrcLost = 0
                              >     > nTrg121 = 132490,
            nTrgMulti = 31352,
                              MnTrgMultiHits = 2.31749
                              >     > nSrc121 = 137180, nSrcLost
            = 0,
                        nSrcMulti =
                              29732, MnSrcMultiHits =
                              >     > 2.28602
                              >     > Saving target data
                              >     > Saving to test.mgz
                              >     >
                              >     > best
                              >     >
                              >     > Trisanna
                              >     >
                              >     > --
                              >     > Ph.D. Candidate
                              >     > McGill University
                              >     > Integrated Program in
            Neuroscience
                              >     > Psychology
                              >     >
                              >     >
                              >     > On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at
            12:13 PM,
                        Bruce
                              Fischl
                              >     >
            <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
                             
            <mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
                        >     <mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
                        >   
             <mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>> wrote:
                        >     >
                        >     >     Hi Trisanna
                        >     >
                        >     >     you would only use those
            options of if
                        you
                        were transforming
                        >     a surface
                        >     >     Bruce
                        >     >
                        >     >
                        >     >     On Wed, 15 Jun 2016,
            Trisanna
                        Sprung-Much
                        wrote:
                        >     >
                        >     >         thanks Dr. Fischl
                        >     >
                        >     >         I assume that for
            surface overlays
                        one
                        cannot specify
                        >     >         --sval-xyz and
            --tval-xyz or the
                        command
                        will treat the
                        >     input
                        >     >         as a surface
                        >     >         itself?
                        >     >
                        >     >         best
                        >     >
                        >     >         Trisanna
                        >     >
                        >     >
                        >     >
                        >     >
                        >     >         --
                        >     >         Ph.D. CandidateMcGill
            University
                        >     >         Integrated Program in
            Neuroscience
                        >     >         Psychology
                        >     >
                        >     >
                        >     >         On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at
            11:11 AM,
                        Bruce
                        Fischl
                        >     >       
             <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
                        >   
             <mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
                        >     >       
             <mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
                        >   
             <mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>> wrote:
                        >     >               Hi Trisanna
                        >     >
                        >     >               you don't need to
            inflate the
                        overlays. They can just
                        >     >         use the existing
            surface-based
                        (sphere.reg) registration.
                        >     >
                        >     >               cheers
                        >     >               Bruce
                        >     >               On Wed, 15 Jun
            2016, Trisanna
                        Sprung-Much wrote:
                        >     >
                        >     >                     Hi there
                        >     >                     So I have
            sulcal labels
                        from
                        another software
                        >     >         (.mnc format) from which
            I am trying
                        to
                        generate some
                        >     >                     probability
            maps. I was
                        able
                        >     >                     to convert
            the .mnc to
                        .mgz
                        surface overlay
                        >     using
                        >     >         mri_vol2surf for my MRIs
            after
                        running all
                        MRIs in
                        >     >                     recon-all.
            So, now I
                        have
                        >     >                     all my
            painted voxels as
                        surface overlays, as I
                        >     >         was instructed to do a
            few months
                        ago.
                        >     >
                        >     >                     I was told
            that the next
                        step
                        would be to use
                        >     >         mri_surf2surf to
            resample the
                        overlays to
                        fsaverage.
                        >     >
                        >     >                     I am a bit
            confused as I
                        would
                        think that
                        >     the next
                        >     >         step would be to take
            the surface
                        overlays
                        and
                        >     >                     inflate them
            before I
                        register
                        >     >                     them to
            fsaverage. I see
                        that
                        when recon-all
                        >     runs,
                        >     >         it computes the
            registration of the
                        MRI
                        surface to
                        >     >                     fsaverage
            and saves it
                        as
                        >     >                     sphere.reg.
            Is there a
                        way I
                        can inflate my
                        >     >         surface overlays in a
            similar manner
                        and
                        then apply this
                        >     >                     same
            registration to my
                        >     >                     surface
            overlays? Or am
                        I
                        missing something?
                        >     >
                        >     >                     thanks very
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