Hi David, 

first I think it makes sense to 
- replicate the problem in the regular (cross sectional) stream
- then fix it there (if it exists) or look for it in long. 

So you see the problem in the S02_t1 and S02_t2 also, right?

Best, Martin

> On 13 Mar 2017, at 16:55, David Semanek <seman...@nyspi.columbia.edu> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, I have uploaded the cross and long stream processing from one subject 
> which requires numerous white matter edits to correct defects in the white 
> matter surfaces; the file is on the ftp server as dsemanek.zip.
> 
> Both of the cross subject folders, s02_t1 and s02_t2 have had edits done to 
> both the brainmask as well as the wm files, and autorecon2-wm and autorecon-3 
> have been run on them, as well as the long folder for the first time point, 
> s02_t1.long.s02_base.
> 
> It was in working with the rerun results of s02_t1.long.s02_base that I 
> noticed the white matter surfaces after being regenerated with the edited 
> wm.mgz did not reflect any of the edits. The easiest way to see this is to 
> load the wm.mgz with the white matter surfaces and scroll through the slices, 
> there are numerous areas where the contours of the white matter surfaces do 
> not follow the voxels of the wm.mgz volume, mostly near what should be 
> identified as hyperintense gray matter. I’m fairly certain the white matter 
> surfaces didn’t change at all after running autorecon2-wm with the wm.mgz 
> edits.
> 
> Thanks for taking a look at our data.
> 
> Best,
> 
> David P. Semanek, HCISPP
> Research Technician, Posner Lab
> Division of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
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> On 3/12/17, 4:13 PM, "Bruce Fischl" <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
> 
>    Hi David
> 
>    if you upload a subject to our ftp site and give us enough detail to
>    replicate what you tried we will take a look
> 
>    cheers
>    Bruce
>    On Fri, 10 Mar 2017, David
>    Semanek wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hello, I have worked quite a bit in the past with fs 5.3 on datasets which
>> required a fair number of manual edits to the white matter volume in order
>> to correct defects in the white matter surface. Typically, these edits take
>> the form of removing voxels in the wm.mgz volume that have been incorrectly
>> identified as white matter, usually near the pial surface caused by
>> intensity artifacts resulting from motion. My experience in the past is that
>> generating the white matter surface after edits to the wm.mgz volume will
>> reliably change the geometry of the resulting surfaces.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> However, on my current dataset, 1.5T adolescent brains with pervasive motion
>> artifacts that do not meet the threshold for unusable data, absolutely no
>> intervention I have done on the wm.mgz volume has any impact at all on the
>> generation of the white matter surfaces. I am really very puzzled by this.
>> All of the files that result from wm.mgz reflect the edits, however the aseg
>> does not.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The resulting white matter surfaces always follow the aseg white matter
>> definitions and never the wm.mgz edits. I feel as if there might be
>> something I am missing but this protocol has reliably been used to do white
>> matter edits in the past. I thought it may be an issue with fs 6 or the long
>> stream, but I have tried the same edits in 5.3, 6, long and cross streams
>> and nothing at all has worked.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Does anyone have any suggestions, or perhaps a hint that I am overlooking
>> something common?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> David P. Semanek, HCISPP
>> 
>> Research Technician, Posner Lab
>> 
>> Division of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
>> 
>> Columbia University Medical Center
>> 
>> New York State Psychiatric Institute
>> 
>> 1051 Riverside Drive, Pardes Bldg. Rm. 2424
>> 
>> New York, NY 10032
>> 
>> PH: (646) 774-5885
>> 
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