Hi Jared

what are the exact command lines you ran? I don't think it can be a freeview problem if the overlays are different.

cheers
Bruce
On Wed, 21 Feb 2018, Zimmerman, Jared wrote:


Hey Doug, Bruce, et al., any update on why fscalc and Matlab are not producing 
the same values when
trying to run a mean?  I’m using fscalc to pilot some stuff now, but not sure 
if I should be
trusting the values I’m getting out of it.

 

It seems this issue might be caused by how Freeview is reading the images and 
not by either Matlab
or fscalc.  See the screenshot below.  The two overlays loaded in Freeview 
should be the exact same
image, which is the mean of three other images, one calculated with fscalc 
(*smMean246.mgh) and the
other by reading the images into Matlab (*matlab_lh.mgh).  Notice that at the 
crosshair (vertex
37431) the values in the two overlays are different by ~0.03, or ~3.5%. 

 

However, if I read these two images into Matlab with MRIread() and look at that 
vertex, both images
have the same value, which is 1.9042

 

So it seems like maybe Freeview and Matlab are not reporting the same values 
for the images, and
possibly the images I write in Matlab are somehow getting depressed by 
Freeview.  I’m not able to
stay connected to my cluster for much longer than 10-15 min at the moment, so 
it’s hard for me to
troubleshoot more, but I can provide sample images and code to recreate the 
problem tomorrow.

 

Is this a known issue that somehow images written in Matlab are not read 
properly by Freeview?

 

This is on v5.3.0 and Matlab 2014b.  I can try tomorrow if the issue persists 
in v6.0

 

Thanks,

Jared

 

 

 

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From: <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of "Zimmerman, Jared"
<jar...@pennmedicine.upenn.edu>
Reply-To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Date: Friday, February 16, 2018 at 2:12 PM
To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer equivalent to fslmaths?

 

Thanks Doug and Bruce, 

 

Fscalc is great because I can do maths with multiple inputs, like a mean.  I’m 
noticing, however,
that when I do a mean with fscalc I get different values than when I do the 
mean in Matlab, any idea
why?  In some regions the differences are as much as 5-10% so I don’t think 
it’s just a
rounding/precision issue.

 

fscalc a.mgh add b.mgh add c.mgh add d.mgh add e.mgh div 5 --odt float --o 
mean.mgh

 

Hard to imagine it’s an order of operations issue, but I am a little confused 
about how fscalc
handles order of operations from the help page.

 

I’m using v5.3.0 and Matlab 2014b

 

Thanks,

Jared

 

From: <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Douglas Greve
<gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Reply-To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Date: Friday, February 16, 2018 at 11:31 AM
To: "freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer equivalent to fslmaths?

 

Or fscalc

 

On 2/16/18 11:22 AM, Bruce Fischl wrote:

      Hi Jared

      I think mris_calc does at least some of what you want.

      cheers
      Bruce
      On Fri, 16 Feb 2018, Zimmerman, Jared wrote:




            Hi all,

             

            Is there an equivalent of fslmaths in Freesurfer?  I would like to 
add two
            scalar value images (.mgh
            files) that are registered to the fsaverage6 surface but I’m not 
seeing an
            obvious way to do it. 
            Right now I’m reading the images into Matlab to add them, but this 
is a bit
            inconvenient because
            what I would like to do is smooth an image by a small amount, add 
the
            original image back to it,
            then smooth again marginally and iterate until I get to a target 
fwhm. 
            Since I can’t smooth inside
            Matlab this necessitates writing out a temp image for each 
smoothing step
            then reading it back into
            Matlab for the adding.  Obviously this is a solvable problem, but 
as someone
            only marginally
            proficient in Matlab it’s something I’d like to avoid, plus it 
seems like a
            lot of I/O for this
            task.

             

            A little more detail on my data and what I’m trying to do:

             

            The scalar images I’m working with are network confidence maps, 
basically
            like the spatial maps from
            an ICA dual-regression.  I want to combine the confidence maps 
together into
            a hard partition and
            write it to an annot file, but I want to smooth them first.  I’m 
concerned,
            however, that smoothing
            is going to bias the parcellation against small network parcels and 
in favor
            of large network
            parcels because in each confidence map the small parcels will be 
surrounded
            by lots of zeros (does
            this make sense?).  To correct for this, my idea was to iteratively 
smooth
            by small amounts and to
            add the original confidence values (or some fraction of them) back 
to the
            smoothed map after each
            iteration so that regions of high confidence with a small/narrow 
spatial
            spread do not become
            diluted by the smoothing and don’t get taken over by larger high 
confidence
            regions in nearby
            networks.

             

            One final question would be how to smooth on a surface without 
resampling. 
            Right now I’m using
            mri_surf2surf and smoothing when I resample to the native mesh, but 
if I
            take the above approach I
            would not want to resample at each smoothing step.  Could I just use
            mri_surf2surf with –srcsubject
            and –trgsubject pointing to the same subject?

             

             

            Thanks,

            Jared

            ____________________________

            Jared P. Zimmerman

            jar...@pennmedicine.upenn.edu

            Neuroscience Graduate Student

            Oathes Lab

            University of Pennsylvania

             

             







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