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Thanks Greve. Yes, I mean that the moveable is completely black. How should
I continue from here? If the registration is so far off that it is out
of the field of view, what should I do next?

Thanks

Dani

El mié., 16 ene. 2019 a las 22:54, Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. (<
dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>) escribió:

> when you say it does not load, do you mean that the moveable is
> blank/black? The terminal output indicates that it is being loaded. It
> is probably the case that the registration is so far off that it is out
> of the field of view
>
> On 1/16/19 11:30 AM, Daniel Ferreira wrote:
> >
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> > Hi Greve,
> >
> > Thanks for your quick reply.
> >
> > I mean that tkregister2 loads the target volume (I think the original
> > T1 it is) but it does not load the moveable volume as stated in
> > https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/Talairach_freeview:
>
> > "You will see the subject's volume as the TARGET volume and your
> > Talairach volume as a fuzzy MOVEABLE volume ...".
> >
> > Below you will find the terminal output from tkregister2. Thanks in
> > advance.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > tkregister2 --mgz --s 0e63e2e7-d1e1-4e78-9106-150994a32c44 --fstal
> > tkregister_tcl /usr/local/freesurfer-6.0.0/tktools/tkregister2.tcl
> > INFO: no target volume specified, assuming FreeSurfer orig volume.
> > target  volume orig
> > movable volume (null)
> > reg file       (null)
> > LoadVol        1
> > ZeroCRAS       1
> > $Id: tkregister2.c,v 1.132.2.1 2016/08/02 21:17:29 greve Exp $
> > Diagnostic Level -1
> >
> > %Tue Dec 11 11:32:27 2018>>>
> > /usr/local/freesurfer-6.0.0/mni/bin/minctracc -clobber -debug
> > /tmp/5039.1.all.q/mritotal_2474//src_8_dxyz.mnc
> >
> /usr/local/freesurfer-6.0.0/mni/bin/../share/mni_autoreg/average_305_8_dxyz.mnc
>
> > transforms/talairach.auto.xfm -transformation
> > /tmp/5039.1.all.q/mritotal_2474//src_8tmp2c.xfm -lsq9 -xcorr
> > -model_mask
> >
> /usr/local/freesurfer-6.0.0/mni/bin/../share/mni_autoreg/average_305_8_mask.mnc
>
> > -center -3.237066 24.478743 -30.435196 -step 4 4 4 -tol 0.004 -simplex 2
> >
> > talairach.xfm ---------------------
> >  0.58327   0.88352  -0.65294  -43.57153;
> > -1.09786   0.44137  -0.38347  -72.94266;
> > -0.04069   0.75613   0.98680   212.60657;
> >  0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   1.00000;
> > INFO: loading target
> > /home/daniel/FreeSurfer/0e63e2e7-d1e1-4e78-9106-150994a32c44/mri/orig.mgz
> > Zeroing CRAS of target
> > new xfm -----------------
> >  0.58327   0.88352  -0.65294  -25.73127;
> > -1.09786   0.44137  -0.38347  -65.12145;
> > -0.04069   0.75613   0.98680   228.56956;
> >  0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   1.00000;
> > ---------------------
> > INFO: changing target type to float
> > Ttarg: --------------------
> > -1.00000   0.00000   0.00000   128.00000;
> >  0.00000   0.00000   1.00000  -128.00000;
> >  0.00000  -1.00000   0.00000   128.00000;
> >  0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   1.00000;
> > INFO: loading movable /usr/local/freesurfer-6.0.0/average/mni305.cor.mgz
> > INFO: changing move type to float
> > Tmov: --------------------
> > -1.00000   0.00000   0.00000   128.00000;
> >  0.00000   0.00000   1.00000  -128.00000;
> >  0.00000  -1.00000   0.00000   128.00000;
> >  0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   1.00000;
> > mkheaderreg = 0, float2int = 0
> > ---- Input registration matrix --------
> >  0.58327   0.88352  -0.65294  -25.73127;
> > -1.09786   0.44137  -0.38347  -65.12145;
> > -0.04069   0.75613   0.98680   228.56956;
> >  0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   1.00000;
> > Determinant 1.92442
> > subject = 0e63e2e7-d1e1-4e78-9106-150994a32c44
> > Zoom Factor = 2, SQR() = 4
> > FOV = 256
> > Opening window 0e63e2e7-d1e1-4e78-9106-150994a32c44
> > Opening 0e63e2e7-d1e1-4e78-9106-150994a32c44, xnum = 256, xdim = 512
> > Setting scale
> > tkregister2: interface:
> > /usr/local/freesurfer-6.0.0/tktools/tkregister2.tcl
> > tkregister.tcl: startup done
> > tkregister.tcl: default macro interface (to change: macro,mini,micro)
> > tkregister.tcl: or: setenv tkregisterinterface {macro,mini,micro}
> > % ------------------------------------------------------------
> >   Screen:  249 340 (28,28,28), inorm = 1, mov_frame = 0
> >   Anat:    (124  85 127)   (   4.0   -1.0   43.0)  32.0000    27.7
> >   Func:    (180 -142  42)   ( -52.4  -86.4  270.1) OutOfBounds
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > El mié., 16 ene. 2019 a las 15:35, Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D.
> > (<dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>>) escribió:
> >
> >     What do you mean that the tal volume does not load as a mov
> >     volume? Can you send the terminal output from tkregister2?
> >
> >     On 1/16/19 10:01 AM, Daniel Ferreira wrote:
> >>
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> >>     Dear Bruce, Martin, and experts,
> >>
> >>
> >>     I posted an issue a few days ago. I have been looking through the
> >>     archives but can not figure out the solution myself. I was
> >>     wondering if you would have any suggestion on how to fix the
> >>     issue described further down?
> >>
> >>     Thank you very much in advance
> >>
> >>     Dani
> >>
> >>     ----
> >>
> >>     Daniel Ferreira
> >>     <
> https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu&q=from:%22Daniel+Ferreira%22
> >
> >>     Wed, 09 Jan 2019 10:22:05 -0800
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> >>     Dear experts,
> >>     I am processing some data and one of my cases failed. I checked the
> >>     recon-all.log and found the following:
> >>
> >>
> >>     *#@# Talairach Failure Detection tis 11 dec 2018 11:32:31 CET*
> >>     */home/daniel/FreeSurfer/0e63e2e7-d1e1-4e78-9106-150994a32c44/mri*
> >>
> >>     * talairach_afd -T 0.005 -xfm transforms/talairach.xfm *
> >>
> >>     *ERROR: talairach_afd: Talairach Transform: transforms/talairach.xfm
> >>     ***FAILED*** (p=0.0000, pval=0.0000 < threshold=0.0050)*
> >>
> >>     *Manual Talairach alignment may be necessary, or*
> >>     *include the -notal-check flag to skip this test,*
> >>     *making sure the -notal-check flag follows -all*
> >>     *or -autorecon1 in the command string.*
> >>     *See:*
> >>
> >>     *http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/Talairach
> >>     <http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/Talairach>*
> >>
> >>     *ERROR: Talairach failed!*
> >>
> >>     *Linux siv 4.4.0-140-generic #166-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 14 20:09:47
> UTC 2018
> >>     x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux*
> >>
> >>     *recon-all -s 0e63e2e7-d1e1-4e78-9106-150994a32c44 exited with
> ERRORS at
> >>     tis 11 dec 2018 11:32:31 CET*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Next, I tried to fix the issue by using tkregister:
> >>       tkregister2 --mgz --s tal_before --fstal
> >>
> >>     However, the Talairach volume does not load as a MOVEABLE volume.
> >>
> >>     When I check the available recon-all output I only have:
> >>
> >>     orig/001 --> looks good
> >>     rawavg --> looks good
> >>     orig --> its awful (it looks like millions of white tiny voxels on
> a black
> >>     background)
> >>     nu --> it is empty
> >>     transforms/talairach.xfm --> is available
> >>
> >>     I was wondering if you would know about any way to fix this?
> >>
> >>     Thank you in advance,
> >>
> >>     Dani
> >>
> >>     --
> >>
> >>     *Daniel Ferreira, PhD, Assistant Professor*
> >>
> >>     Division of Clinical Geriatrics; Department of Neurobiology, Care
> Sciences
> >>     and Society
> >>
> >>     Karolinska Institutet (Sweden)
> >>
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> |
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