On 5/28/2021 2:17 PM, Alexopoulos, Dimitrios wrote:

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Greg,

Additional clarification.

Are these 2 options runs independently - i.e. separate tests?

Not sure what you  mean here

For example, add CPs to brain.mgz and then rerun entire recon-all -all command?

You don't need to run with -all (you can but inefficient). You can start at the appropriate -autorecon2-X

Is the experts options file used with the CPs above in one run or separate run using

recon-all -s subject -expert yourexpertoptions.txt -pial -lh

Once you run it once with an expert option, it will copy the expert options file into the output folder, then you just need to specify -xopts-use on subsequent runs

Jim

*From:*Alexopoulos, Dimitrios
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*Subject:* RE: [Freesurfer] WM or Pial edits to correct surfaces

Thanks Doug. Will try with difference distances. Where is the expert file placed?

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There might be a couple things happening. First, I would try adding a few control points in that area; make sure they are in true WM in voxels that have a value less than 110 on the brain.mgz file. This might help push the white surface further out (the WM in that gyrus is very thin). It might also help push the pial surface out. The next thing you can try is to increase the maximum distance over which the edge is searched for. These young subjects have very plump/thick cortices. You can do that with an expert options file. Create a text file with the following content:

   PlaceT1PialSurf --max-cbv-dist 6

Where "6" tells it to search 6 mm rather than the default 5. You may need to play with the number

You can then run recon-all with

recon-all -s subject -expert yourexpertoptions.txt -pial -lh

The above command will run just the pial of just the lh hemi, so you should have your answer in a few minutes

On 5/27/2021 2:19 PM, Alexopoulos, Dimitrios wrote:

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    Hi users,

    We’re having some issues with running some of our 2-3yo data
    (0.8mm isotropic)  through FS7 with and without the -hires  flag.

    There are persistent issues with the frontal lobe regions where
    the pial has not extended to outer surface as illustrated below.

    The WM surface contour look reasonable but the pial has
    underestimated the outer cortex resulting in an incorrect surface
    (below).

    I don’t think control points will work (low intensity values in
    the 50-60s), and no WM to add to the WM.mgz.

    Any suggestion on how to push the pial surface out to capture the
    cortical surface??

    Thx.

    Jim

                                                                                    
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