External Email - Use Caution new recon all: freesurfer-darwin-macOS-dev-20220328-fc008d0 old recon all: freesurfer-Linux-centos6_x86_64-stable-pub-v6.0.1-f53a55a ________________________________ From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Douglas N. Greve <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 2:05 PM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] etiv value differs if using recon all vs freesurfer dev
The "cvs_version" is just for that particular binary. look in $FREESURFER_HOME/build-stamp.txt. There should also be a build stamp file in $SUBJECTS_DIR/subject/scripts (should be in the recon-all.log too) On 7/28/2022 1:41 PM, Miriam Taza wrote: External Email - Use Caution is it not these two lines? # cvs_version $Id: mri_segstats.c,v 1.121 2016/05/31 17:27:11 greve Exp $ # cvs_version dev if not, for the new recon-all I also have this: freesurfer-darwin-macOS-dev-20220328-fc008d0 How do i check the old recon all? It was done in the past.is there a log? ________________________________ From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu><mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Douglas N. Greve <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu><mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 1:27 PM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu><mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] etiv value differs if using recon all vs freesurfer dev What version of FS are you using for recon-all? On 7/25/2022 9:45 PM, Miriam Taza wrote: External Email - Use Caution I reran sclimbic and I get the same result as the first time I ran sclimbic. I also reran recon all on one subject. The etiv now differs from the original recon all and the sclimbic output (although it is closer to sclimbic). Here is the log for both recon all. original recon all, etiv = 1169944.199744 # cvs_version $Id: mri_segstats.c,v 1.121 2016/05/31 17:27:11 greve Exp $ # cmdline mri_segstats --seg mri/aseg.mgz --sum stats/aseg.stats --pv mri/norm.mgz --empty --brainmask mri/brainmask.mgz --brain-vol-from-seg --excludeid 0 --excl-ctxgmwm --supratent --subcortgray --in mri/norm.mgz --in-intensity-name norm --in-intensity-units MR --etiv --surf-wm-vol --surf-ctx-vol --totalgray --euler --ctab /opt/freesurfer/ASegStatsLUT.txt --subject sub-1221084 # SegVolFileTimeStamp 2018/02/28 00:18:52 new etiv = 702243.513916 # cvs_version dev # cmdline mri_segstats --seed 1234 --seg mri/aseg.mgz --sum stats/aseg.stats --pv mri/norm.mgz --empty --brainmask mri/brainmask.mgz --brain-vol-from-seg --excludeid 0 --excl-ctxgmwm --supratent --subcortgray --in mri/norm.mgz --in-intensity-name norm --in-intensity-units MR --etiv --surf-wm-vol --surf-ctx-vol --totalgray --euler --ctab /Applications/freesurfer/ASegStatsLUT.txt --subject sub-1221084 # SegVolFileTimeStamp 2022/07/25 21:04:31 sclimbic etiv= 686180.089200 >From a quick glance, the other values dont seem to differ by much between >recons so I'm not sure why this is happening with etiv nor what value to >accept. Please let me know if there is something else I can do or if you need more info. Miriam ________________________________ From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu><mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Miriam Taza <miriam.t...@mail.mcgill.ca><mailto:miriam.t...@mail.mcgill.ca> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 2:45 PM To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu><mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] etiv value differs if using recon all vs freesurfer dev External Email - Use Caution I am getting eerror: mri_segstats: could not open atlas transform file /export01/local/freesurfer/subjects/sub-1221084/mri/transforms/talairach.xfm The results do agree when Re running sclimbic. it seems that when etiv differs a bit from the median, sclimbic module calculates etiv to an extreme. Is this expected to happen? I am concerned if my volumes are incorrect. ________________________________ From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu><mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Douglas N. Greve <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu><mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2022 10:38 PM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu><mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] etiv value differs if using recon all vs freesurfer dev I cannot replicate this on my data. The differences are rather extreme (factors of 3). Can you get us access to the one with the largest difference? YOu can also try regenerating the aseg.stats file, eg, cd subject/ mri_segstats --seed 1234 --seg mri/aseg.mgz --sum stats/redo.aseg.stats --pv mri/norm.mgz --empty --brainmask mri/brainmask.mgz --brain-vol-from-seg --excludeid 0 --excl-ctxgmwm --supratent --subcortgray --in mri/norm.mgz --in-intensity-name norm --in-intensity-units MR --etiv --surf-wm-vol --surf-ctx-vol --totalgray --euler --ctab /usr/local/freesurfer/7.2.0/ASegStatsLUT.txt --subject subject Check the eTIV in redo.aseg.stats against that in aseg.stats, then re-run mri_sclimbic_seg to see if the results agree. On 7/24/2022 6:19 PM, Miriam Taza wrote: External Email - Use Caution Hello, I am getting different etiv values when running recon(orange) all VS mri_sclimbic_seg (blue). My analysis uses limbic volumes extracted from the dev version but I am not sure if I should just use the etiv from recon all, given the data is tighter (see attached). Why is there this discrepancy and what do you recommend? 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