Bruce,

In a way, I agree that we could just gateway the audio and be done with it, but 
is that really the best possible solution? It  doesn't handle things in the 
most efficient manner and has its own set of issues, which I've discussed with 
a ham from Australia recently. One of those issues is how do you handle the ham 
that has a Codec 2 capable transceiver that insists on trying to use the local 
D-Star repeater? If we can figure that out, using Codec 2 on VHF/UHF will be 
something to work on; until then, I will limit my experiments to Echolink-style 
bridging.

Matthew Pitts 
N8OHU

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Perens <br...@perens.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:12:03 
To: <freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net>
Reply-To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] HF narrow band

On 11/28/2011 05:52 PM, n8...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I see a number of potential problems with your VHF/UHF idea, most of which 
> are compatibility issues with existing Icom repeater hardware and end-user 
> radios;
Hi Matthew,

D*STAR isn't the way we'd do digital radio today. Although it's possible 
to fit Codec2 in a D*STAR packet, and even possible to retrofit the 
daughter boards in older ICOM HTs and mobiles, it's not clear that this 
would be the best use of effort. There are only about 550 D*STAR 
repeaters nationally, and ICOM had to give some of them away to get that 
many. It's not taken over VHF and UHF to the extent that we have to be 
compatible with it.

A much easier alternative is to gateway Codec2 voice to D*STAR. Just 
network together, translating codecs and protocols. Everyone can talk 
together that way.

We are at the point that HTs can be SDR, removing some of the hardware 
limitations. There is a lot of room for us to experiment with FEC and 
modulation. We're not tied to narrow-band, spread-spectrum can be tried 
as well.

     Thanks

     Bruc e

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