On 02/08/2012 06:43 AM, David Rowe wrote:
> Hello List,
>
> I am also intrigued by the wideband possibilities for Codec 2 over
> narrow HF digital radio channels.  I was brainstorming this with Bruce
> and Jean-Marc recently.
>
> As Jean-Marc points out, there is some more spectral information above
> 4kHz.  For example a few more peaks and troughs in the speech spectrum
> in the range of 4-8kHz.  This would require a higher LPC order, and over
> the channel a few more LSPs.  The good news is that the ear is not very
> sensitive to this information, so it can be encoded fairly coarsely at a
> low bit rate.
That's a misleading way to express things. The ear is *very* sensitive 
to the energy between 4kHz and 7kHz, which is why so many sounds, 
especially unvoiced ones, can't be distinguished on a narrow band phone 
call. It is true to say the ear is not very sensitive to the precision 
with which this energy is reproduced. Jean Marc has a really neat piece 
of software to stretch narrowband voice to wideband, and produces a very 
pleasant result. However, its creating something from nothing, so it 
cannot actually recreate the lost vocal information and restore the 
speech clarity lost with a narrow band voice.
> No extra bits are required to encode more harmonics or voicing for
> wideband audio - we would just extend the harmonics out to 8kHz, setting
> the amplitudes based on the LPC envelope.
>
> So for a few hundred bit/s more we could probably get a Codec 2 running
> at a 16 kHz sample rate: i.e. an "AM broadcast" audio bandwidth of
> between 50 and 7000 Hz.  It wouldn't sound as good as an audio codec
> like Opus (or wideband Speex).  But booming bass out of a Ham radio
> might be an interesting.
>
> Curiously, this could all be sent over a regular HF Ham radio SSB
> "channel" using say 2kHz of RF spectrum, and might only require 1dB more
> power.
>

Steve


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