Hi,

I think a 3 to 6 dB backoff from the saturation power level of the PA is
good choice for standard ham radio setups. This will help to keep the
spectrum narrow and to avoid too much ACI. Even a 3 dB (inside-band IM free)
compression seems allowed w/o degradation of transmission performance. I’ll
be on the road the next days, but afterwards I’ll continue with some tests.
BTW Alfred, HB9EPU and I are using linearized amps by means of adaptive
pre-distortion so that we never paid too much attention that item, hi.

73, Helmut

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Von: David Rowe [mailto:[email protected]] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. September 2015 01:57
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [Freetel-codec2] received SNRs

Thank you Helmut, nice to have independent verification of the SNR 
estimation algorithm in the cohpsk modem.  The MDS results are also 
quite exciting!

Would it be possible please to test the effect of FreeDV 700B SNR, when 
the transmitter power amplifier is driven harder? On my simple tests 
here, I couldn't drive my IC7200 hard enough to cause any problems, so I 
am wondering where the limit is for 700B.

For example if the peak/average ratio of the tx signal is 4 or 6dB, what 
is the SNR degradation as measured by FreeDV 700B?

Thanks,

David

On 15/09/15 22:59, Helmut wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> here the report of some tests this afternoon (sorry, screenshots can't be
> packed more w/o heavy quality reduction). Moreover I'm not sure whether
the
> SNR on the FreeDV display is calibrated in dB.
> First I checked the 'mean discernible signal' of mode 700B offering
> reasonable readability: SNR -1 (dB?), signal in SSB channel -130 dBm,
> visiable in the noise on the panadapter.  I very impressive result!!!
> Then I increased signal up to -123 dBm, + 7 (dB?) on freeDv display,
> comfortable readability. In a further step I raised TX PEP power by 6 dB.
My
> calibrated S-Meter followed, while SNR display shows 5 (dB?) more. The
> proven accuracy of the HPSDR S-Meter is +/- 0.5 dB. I think that's a good
> compliance with the SNR show on the freeDV window.
>
> David, I hope this quick test helps a bit.
>
> 73, Helmut
>
>
>
>
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