As long as all Freevo does is call third-party applications, or libraries like dvdread that can, but do not require css, I don't see why we couldn't do it.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 01:14:39PM +0100, Q wrote: > Well the majority of DVDs I would want to back up are simply music DVDs, so > its really for nothing much more than extended JukBox functionaility. Of > course you can't deliberately include any ability to decode/rip DVDs, since > doing so may place some users (depending on their location) is some legal > difficulties. But my hope would be that you would at least make it easy for > users to take the steps needed to include this functionality if they so > chose. > > It is a stupid situation - but then I can't get my head around the idea that > even just watching a DVD in Linux is illegal. So for as long as unjust and > silly laws exist, I am more than happy to continue to break them - providing > no one gains finacially, or indirectly through piracy in anything I choose > to do. As I said, backing up my own personal paid for collection shouldn't > be of concern to anyone. > > Q > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aubin Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] audio.cdbackup > > > > > > I think backup would be ok, but compression is not something I'd want > > to run inside of Freevo. It just takes far too long. > > > > The way I want to do it, is to run 'vobcopy' > > (http://lpn.rnbhq.org/projects/c/c.shtml) to dump the DVD into a VOB > > file on the hard drive. After that, if someone wants to compress it, > > it would have to happen in the background... > > > > The actual legal problem is more complicated than with CDs. The DMCA > > prohibits circumventing copy protection, regardless of whether it's > > your copy of the DVD. > > > > It's completely foolish, but your fair use rights are overridden by > > the prohibition against circumventing copy protection. Audio CDs have > > no copy protection, so you're not circumventing anything, hence fair > > use takes over. > > > > The main thing is that I don't think Freevo should ever include the > > vobcopy binary with dvdcss support, but just point you to where you > > can get it if you're in the (increasingly few) countries where it's > > allowed. > > > > Aubin > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 08:54:02AM +0100, Q wrote: > > > What about DVD back-up. :) I know You've only just finished with CD > back-up, > > > but DVD-backup would be cool too. (Back-up to a full movie, Divx or SVCD > or > > > all of or any one of a combination of all three. I'm aware of the legal > > > problems this presents, but I don't see a problem with wanting to > back-up my > > > own DVD collection, or in being able to record TV shows etc in full DVD > > > format for later recording back to DVD-R disk. I don't really see it > > > presenting any more problems than a user wanting to back up their CD > > > collection. > > > > > > Possibly a long shot, but worth mentioning I guess. > > > > > > Q > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Rich C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 3:47 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] audio.cdbackup > > > > > > > > > > For those that are using the daily CVS snapshot or > > > > checking out from CVS and want to rip CDs, I added > > > > useage info in the Documentation wiki: > > > > > > > > 2.3.7 Ripping/Backing Up Audio CDs > > > > http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/DocumentationPage > > > > > > > > -Rich > > > > > > > > --- Aubin Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I don't know if the cdbackup plugin exists outside > > > > > of CVS, so you'll > > > > > need to either upgrade to the CVS version or wait > > > > > for a new release... > > > > > 1.3.2 was out before the cdbackup plugin was > > > > > completed... > > > > > > > > > > Aubin > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 04:23:59PM -0400, > > > > > christopher neitzert wrote: > > > > > > hiya > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm running freevo 1.3.2pre4 under linux > > > > > 2.4.21-custom, > > > > > > and Everything is working just fine except I am > > > > > unable to find the > > > > > > module audio.cdbackup to set up the ripper. > > > > > > > > > > > > can anyone help with pointing out a location or > > > > > FAQ as to making my own? > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built > > > > > ASP.NET sites including > > > > > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are > > > > > available now. > > > > > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual > > > > > Studio .NET. > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Freevo-users mailing list > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! 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