I amsterdam!!!

Dale,

I agree, it's a beast, but from what I saw we only need limited funtionality:

-wiki for the documentation.
-a menu with shortcuts and some pages for : hardware, autheurs, background etc etc
-faq with the possibility of suggestions
-image gallery
-for the plugins: file-admin and attachments.

It has a good and solid security, a "anti-bot" mechanism and protection of 
email-adresses
setup of groups:
-anomynous
-webadmins (users administring the webinterface)
-document-admins (users for administring the documentation)
and ofcourse the "admin"

skins:
We only need one: why putting effort in giving everyone it's own skin, Freevo is ment 
to be a public website.............
I just got blue and white, some background pictures from freevo.sf.net in the main 
stylesheet, a few new header
tags...............et voila......the same as the current freevo site

forum:
The main disadvantage of a forum in general is the lack of support for
1) incomming email
2) not searchable for google and other search machines (or at least not that good)
3) a developper has to put in more effort to answer a question over a forum
4) a forum has allways more downtime as a maillinglist.
5) by integrating http://www.mail-archive.com/freevo-users%40lists.sourceforge.net/
in the website, i'am sure that something can be done on that
a perfect lookup tool can be created for searching.

if a forum is wanted, i guess the best is phpBB2 it's commonly used and stable, but 
every forum i
frequently visit was "often"  down......stability of a mailinglist is unbeatable

Dale, i 've sent you seperat email with a sneak preview and a username/password

by the way look at my input as "discussing" for gathering different point of views, 
that's all................

With kind regards
Fons van der Beek


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dale Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] website maintainer wanted


> Fons van der Beek wrote:
>
> >Dale,
> >
> >hmmmmmmmm, i took a look at tikiwiki........it looks great..............how about 
> >that one?
> >it looks like it has some good user/login features.
> >
> >I played around for about 30 mins and i was able to create almost the same looks as 
> >the current site
> >a big working example (not that pretty, but very functional) at www.voip-info.org.
> >
> >I will play a little bit around with it and will try to give an answer to the 
> >security and functionality
> >Unfortunatly i have not that much time this weekend, but I will let you know 
> >something.
> >
> >Kind regards
> >Fons van der Beek
> >
> >
> >
> Cheers to Netherland, just got back from Amsterdam :)
>
> Anyway - this beast? I installed this twice - once a year ago and a
> month ago I gave that a second try.
> Ah, well, it is OK as Wiki. However, it has got tempting features like
> forums (LOL) and calendars and all this stuff ... and then it becomes
> kind of a hell to manage :) We _wanted_ to use that as internal CMS
> however are looking for replacement. The biggest issue is the rendering
> in diferent browsers and using different skins.
>
> Some skins are simply not usable at all :( The best one is the default
> one, the one you have on your page.
>
> Also, in Mozilla (Windows/Linux) I get screwed pages quite regularly,
> simply rendered all wrong :( Same is true in MSIE and Opera. But this we
> experienced in forums and calendars. Forums are not popular here anyway
> so it does not have to bother me ;)
>
> Ifr we use this for freevo WIKI only, it is OK. After recent experience
> I would like to avoid turning on some of the other modules.
>
> regards,
> Dale
>
>
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