So....

             Take freevsd and run it on a linux virtual server
             as described by:

              http://freshmeat.net/projects/linuxvirtualserver/


              Is that what you are talking about?

              How does this fail?


              

"Kevin Druet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 % wouldnt that make this a perfect world,,, 
 % we gave some thought to that very question, and concluded that 
 % clustering is the best solution, we are working on a freeVSD cluster 
 % addon, it seems that the vsd protocols do not like to coexist in a 
 % cluster.
 % 
 % 
 % 
 % > 
 % > "Kevin Druet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 % > 
 % > 
 % >  % No you have not missed anything, the point I was trying to make 
 % was 
 % >  % that not every customer is going to be a "heavy hitter" distribute 
 % them 
 % >  % appropriately....
 % > 
 % >  
 % >  Ok... Suppose that I have several racks of boxes doing stuff.
 % >  And as we know what various virtual servers load's will vary
 % >  dramatically. So some systems are going to develop hot spots.
 % > 
 % >  IE, places where lots of the virtuals on those machines have started
 % >  to be active.
 % > 
 % >  is there any easy way to redistribute servers from one box to 
 % another?
 % > 
 % >  IE, if I have two vsd boxes, where one has a light load and the other
 % >  has a heavy load, is there a way to pick up and move a virtual to
 % >  a different box in a way that works?
 % > 
 % > 
 % > 
 % > 
 % > 
 % > 
 % > 
 % > 
 % > 
 % > "Kevin Druet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 % > 
 % >  % 
 % >  % 
 % >  % > > I think that alot of you are thinking that the VS's are going 
 % to 
 % >  % get alot
 % >  % > > of hits, well this is just simply not the case,
 % >  % > 
 % >  % > why is it not the case? something special about VS's that stops 
 % them 
 % >  % getting
 % >  % > hits? You get a customer who's virtual hosting account gets 5gb 
 % a 
 % >  % month and
 % >  % > he buys a VS he's still doing 5gb a month or am I missing 
 % something 
 % >  % here?
 % >  % >
 % >  % No you have not missed anything, the point I was trying to make 
 % was 
 % >  % that not every customer is going to be a "heavy hitter" distribute 
 % them 
 % >  % accordingly and there wont be any trouble.
 % >  % 
 % >  % We have high traffic high usage customers, and they pay for a 1U 
 % >  % server, we see the small clients as perfect for FreeVSD, as we can 
 % pack 
 % >  % quite a few onto one system...
 % >  % 
 % >  % the majority of our VS customers do not use SQL at all, only the 
 % fp 
 % >  % server extensions, our server load is quite low,,,
 % >  % 
 % >  % I find great satisfaction in the statement regarding the 9 am 
 % email 
 % >  % pick up,, I thought I was the only one who sweats bullets every 
 % morning 
 % >  % for an hour....
 % >  % 
 % >  % 
 % >  % > > My larger customers, are in the range of  about 1500 hits per 
 % month 
 % >  % and
 % >  % > > about 2000 emails per month spread over 10 to 20 users.
 % >  % > 
 % >  % > trust me these are not large customers - our large customers get 
 % >  % 1500+ an
 % >  % > hour - here is last weeks hits for what we would class an 
 % average to 
 % >  % high
 % >  % > customer
 % >  % > (who also runs a medium size mysql database)
 % >  % > 
 % >  % > Overall Accesses (hits) 84,555
 % >  % > Bytes 477,212,020
 % >  % > Visits 13,288
 % >  % > 
 % >  % > we also have those sites getting less than 100 a month usually 
 % these
 % >  % > sites don't renew anywhere they just go offline when there year 
 % is up
 % >  % > 
 % >  % > > I seem to think that you all who think that 10 virtuals per 
 % server 
 % >  % is too
 % >  % > > much are still running windows,, remember this, unused CPU is 
 % >  % wasted CPU.
 % >  % > 
 % >  % > And rightly so..10 VS's 'could' be too many - we have a server 
 % with 
 % >  % just 8
 % >  % > virtual accounts, all together the server pushes out over 80gig -
 %  and 
 % >  % a mix
 % >  % > of applications perl/mysql/etc I wouldn't want a thousand of 
 % these on 
 % >  % one
 % >  % > server - we tend to measure our servers on traffic throughput 
 % because 
 % >  % we
 % >  % > have found it pretty much directly relates to cpu if you 
 % carefully
 % >  % > mix/juggle your app sites with your low hit html sites - and 
 % believe 
 % >  % me we
 % >  % > don't run windows and we do have wasted cpu to cover the rush 
 % hour
 % >  % > 
 % >  % > I would suggest it depends who your target market is - I 
 % certainly 
 % >  % wouldn't
 % >  % > want
 % >  % > 1500 of our average sites on one server - the 9am e-mail pick-up 
 % rush 
 % >  % would
 % >  % > be real fun if we did
 % >  % > 
 % >  % > Gary
 % >  % > 
 % >  % > 
 % >  % > 
 % >  % > 
 % >  % > 
 % >  % > 
 % >  % 
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