We have every intention of ensuring that pop-before-relay operates correctly
with both real users and virtual users (I also believe it should be enabled
by default). I have been away for a couple of weeks and wasn't aware that
the relay implementation didn't work for normal users, but panic not, it
will be fixed shortly (hopefully tomorrow)...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of redirect
> Sent: 24 July 2001 16:30
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: virtual users
>
>
> all of our users are outside the local network - we are an IPP and have
> thousands of users who may/would want to relay through the
> server, and it
> just all gets a bit messy - because it would mean each real user
> would have
> to be a virtual user as well as a real user - this has big drawbacks -
> firstly educating customers to all of this (difficult if you are
> selling on
> ease of use) - secondly neither the web admin scripts or the windows GUI
> allow for virtual user set-up - the pre-gen skel doesn't have
> freeVSD in it
> so VS admins cannot add virtual users - which would leave our sys
> admin guys
> adding hundreds of users for customers - not cost effective -
>
> we are re-writing the web admin scripts to accomodate the new
> features time
> zone, htpasswd, virtual users but seems a bit pointless if we can't use
> virtual users because we have to use pop before smtp for real
> users etc etc
>
> Eddie
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nigel Marett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:52 PM
> Subject: Re: virtual users
>
>
> > On Tuesday 24 July 2001 3:24 pm, you wrote:
> > > but doesn't that mean that pop before smtp doesn't work for real users
> if
> > > you use vm-pop3d?
> >
> > yes.
> >
> >
> > >so you can't use virtual users and have real users send
> > > email through the server?
> > >
> > > eddie
> >
> > You can let 'real' users send mail, they just cant do pop before smtp
> > authentication.
> >
> > Which in essance means you would need to configure access for the hosts
> you
> > wish to relay for.
> >
> > It beaks down to this:
> >
> > For users whom you wish to use pop before smtp authentication (users who
> > occasionally send mail from outside of your network ie: from home) - set
> them
> > up a virtual user.
> >
> > For users who are inside your network (or any other static trust worthy
> > network) and you know they dont "roam" from your network,
> > you could then configure sendmail access for them, and add them a 'real'
> user
> > account.
> >
> > Obviously, if your an ISP and you provide dial-up's this isnt a problem,
> as
> > your dial ups are part of your local network, yet you may have
> some pesky
> > users who want to send mail whilst they are working over in the
> USA, then
> > they will want to roam, as you dont want your sendmail server
> to become a
> > promiscuous relay, then you want to authenticate.
> >
> > So, virtual users for those who want to roam, 'real' users for those who
> dont.
> >
> > As I have said, this will all be fixed shortly, and this email
> will be old
> > and refer to somthing that no longer exists.
> >
> > But in the meantime those are the options.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Nigel.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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