Is there a freevsd cd for redhat 7.x (7.1 or 7.2)? Also, does freevsd support Postfix (MTA) as oppose to buggy sendmail? When will IDaya release proVSD and how much will it cost.? Great Software. thanks Patrick
-----Original Message----- From: Tim Sellar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: GPL or not? I am afraid you need to explain your argument more clearly. As an ISP with servers hosted remotely you say the current freeVSD CDROM is of no use to you. If you want RPMS of the latest release, with relevant RedHat errata, and a choice of the latest pre-built skels for RH6 and RH7 to install on your remote server they are available on the freeVSD CDROM. It would appear from your response that you want some (all?) of the above, but do not wish to pay for it. Please correct me if this is not the case. If it is the case, why do you feel that the work which has gone into developing, producing and testing these packages (and particularly skels) by the IDAYA team of developers does not warrant any sort of payment. You appear to be fairly incensed that we are requiring you to perform the following in order to obtain your software for nothing: cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/cvsroot -z5 co freevsd autoheader; autoconf; ./configure && make install If I actually intended to use some software, and crucially _make_money_out_of_doing_ so_, I don't think I would let that stand in my way. Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of redirect > Sent: 02 November 2001 17:45 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: GPL or not? > > > actually there is so much that p***** me off about this and really pleased > we pulled freeVSD as an offer because you guys at Idaya are not > in step with > the our world > > > freeVSD-1.4.10 is, and always has been available to anyone, > free of charge > > and courtesy of IDAYA via anonymous CVS. In the early days of > open-source > > software this was typically the only form in which software was > available > > and wholly fulfills the obligation of the GPL to make source code > available. > > nice one guys wouldn't want you not fullfilling your obligations > but I think > you missed the point. > > > IDAYA has chosen not to make available a source tarball or > produce RPMs of > > the freeVSD-1.4.10 release at this time. This has been done in order to > > encourage people to purchase the freeVSD CDROM. > > at least you're admitting it > > >You will all understand the > > time and effort in building a freeVSD server, for a small fee we are > making > > the CDROM available, giving the option to people who want to purchase it > of > > saving enormous time and effort that could be better utilised. You are > free > > to obtain the GPL source via CVS and expend the necessary time > and effort > > yourself. I should also point out that when it comes to installation on > > remote servers I am not sure what we can additionally provide beyond the > > RPMs and pre-built skels we are making available on the second CDROM. > > but you've just said you are not providing the RPM's - and who's > saving time > and effort - we are a commercial web host who were using freeVSd > until this > fiasco but your CD is no good to us, thanks a lot, maybe if I was playing > around with freeVSD in my office at lunchtime it may be > okay...but you guys > have a strange idea about web hosts > > > In the future, the latest versions of freeVSD software will initially be > > made available for purchase on CDROM. Packaged versions of the latest > > release will, at a later date, be made available for download > via ftp from > > freevsd.org. All releases and ongoing freeVSD development will > continue to > > be available for download via anonymous CVS. At a later date I hope it > will > > possible for IDAYA to make available packaged versions of the latest > > releases and even iso images. Unfortunately, at present, it is not. > > Of course to do that you have to sell products and make profit and be in > business and who's going to buy the stuff if they can't use it? > > > IDAYA have every intention of continuing the freeVSD project towards its > > stated goal of 'establishing freeVSD as the most advanced and > finely tuned > > web hosting system available'. > > by the way that is missing what was in the objective initially which was > 'free' open source > > > IDAYA will soon be launching a commercial release of freeVSD, named > proVSD, > > which, while based on freeVSD, offers considerable advatanges > in terms of > > optimisation, functionality and support. We anticipate that > proVSD will be > > the package of choice for serious web-hosting applications. > > right, so we are not serious web hosts then, now I understand, > I'll be sure > to inform our 3000 customers of that > > > However, proVSD > > will not replace freeVSD. Those who continue to use freeVSD > will continue > to > > benefit from the support, improvements and enhancements which will be > passed > > onto freeVSD from proVSD development work. This mirrors the > arrangement of > > countless other open-source projects and means IDAYA will be > continuing to > > serve the open-source community. > > the scraps from the masters table... > > > Tim Sellar > > Chief Technical Officer > > IDAYA Ltd > > > > ------------------------- The freeVSD Support > List -------------------------- > > Subscribe: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe%20freevsd-support > > Unsubscribe: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=unsubscribe%20freevsd-support > > Archives: http://freevsd.org/support/mail-archives/freevsd-support > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- > --- > > > > ------------------------- The freeVSD Support List > -------------------------- > Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe%20freevsd-support > Unsubscribe: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=unsubscribe%20freevsd-support > Archives: http://freevsd.org/support/mail-archives/freevsd-support > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----------- ------------------------- The freeVSD Support List -------------------------- Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe%20freevsd-support Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=unsubscribe%20freevsd-support Archives: http://freevsd.org/support/mail-archives/freevsd-support ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- ------------------------- The freeVSD Support List -------------------------- Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe%20freevsd-support Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=unsubscribe%20freevsd-support Archives: http://freevsd.org/support/mail-archives/freevsd-support -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
