My guess it won't happen that soon.  The major hurdle I see is
intelligence doesn't come from passively conforming to an imposed
landscape (Darwin's idea), but from creatively exploring discovered ones
(the living systems idea).   ...I think maybe we're making great
progress, but sort of need to start over with our design principle
reversed!


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 4:37 AM
> To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Sensor networks and self-organization
> 
> 
> 
> Intelligence is a very fuzzy and cloudy concept. My guess 
> it that the first machines with human-like intelligence 
> and self-consciousness are not far away, 10-20 years 
> perhaps (see the bets at http://www.longbets.org/1 or 
> http://www.longbets.org/15). This will > certainly be a 
> major 
> breakthrough - the next big evolutionary transition.
> I personally think it is easier to build intelligent 
> agents in virtual worlds than robots in real worlds,
> and I would expect the breakthrough here in the virtual 
> world. For the "secret of true AI", see the discussion at 
http://tinyurl.com/j4qck or http://tinyurl.com/k88wd  

-J.


-----Original Message-----
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Yea, how far away would anyone guess it is to the invention of the first
'intelligent' machine?   Do you think it's a matter of one or many
missing discoveries, or just applying current knowledge in a more
complex way?  


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