Phil Henshaw wrote: > My guess it won't happen that soon. The major hurdle I see is > intelligence doesn't come from passively conforming to an imposed > landscape (Darwin's idea), but from creatively exploring discovered ones > (the living systems idea). ...I think maybe we're making great > progress, but sort of need to start over with our design principle > reversed!
In reply to Jochen Fromm: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm > > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 4:37 AM > > To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Sensor networks and self-organization > > > > > > > > Intelligence is a very fuzzy and cloudy concept. My guess > > it that the first machines with human-like intelligence > > and self-consciousness are not far away, 10-20 years > > perhaps (see the bets at http://www.longbets.org/1 or > > http://www.longbets.org/15). This will > certainly be a > > major > > breakthrough - the next big evolutionary transition. > > I personally think it is easier to build intelligent > > agents in virtual worlds than robots in real worlds, > > and I would expect the breakthrough here in the virtual > > world. For the "secret of true AI", see the discussion at > http://tinyurl.com/j4qck or http://tinyurl.com/k88wd My opinion, FWIW, is that we will never see machines exhibit human-like intelligence and self-consciousness. I'm not saying that machines will never exhibit intelligence and self-consciousness equivalent to humans. I'm saying that machines will be different but equal. Machines may come to the same conclusion as a human but will follow different paths in reasoning to that conclusion. Especially if we make machines that are self-aware/self-conscious, we will see that their behaviours will be unexpected. The analog is the difference between human intelligence and that of animals. When faced with the same circumstances (or equivalent) that require the same intelligence as an animal faced with the circumstance, humans will make different choices than the animals. This, of course, presumes that one believes that animals are intelligent, albeit to a lesser degree than humans. -- Ray Parks [EMAIL PROTECTED] IDART Project Lead Voice:505-844-4024 IORTA Department Mobile:505-238-9359 http://www.sandia.gov/scada Fax:505-844-9641 http://www.sandia.gov/idart Pager:800-690-5288 ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
