Justin,

I reviewed and enjoyed your PPT presentation and I must confess got a little lost in the economics jargon, but felt impelled to share an observation and pose some questions...

At one point you complain of not being able to get the message out to the business world and provided a number of good reasons. However, competent businesses are forced to justify their decisions (at least internally) while balancing risk. In any application of computer modeling, regardless of the underlying technology (from well established engineering principles to system dynamics), for it to be useful it has to have predictive capabilities or characteristics. No one, or at least very few in your field, gets specific about predictability. (In some fields there may be a good reason: If I knew of an accurate way to predict stock market behavior and told the world it would probably be self defeating. The presence of the model defeats the model.) Competent business people will seek assurances of predictability.

You point to the need to pursue the "Brand Experience Cycle" when promoting the discipline of SD/ABM/etc. Have you applied your own technological approach to modeling your own success? Did you estimate the numbers game sales professional insist on knowing: from x contacts y% move to the next stage, z% to the next and so on? Did you back calculate the effort needed to meet your two year goal and what did it look like?

In the spectrum of effective computer models, that can vary from 100% totally inaccurate to 100% totally accurate, I suspect No Model At All is slap bang in the middle. Convincing managers that your model lies firmly on the (predictably) accurate side seems all that is needed to close a deal. I've been there and done that (but not always.)

As a model (sic) for your discipline (ABM/SD/etc) have you looked at the field of Process Control that uses Model Predictive Control to manage difficult manufacturing control problems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_predictive_control). It is now, I believe, a well established engineering sub-discipline.

Robert C

Justin Lyon wrote:
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As promised, here is the URL for the Brazil talk I gave.

http://s158641480.onlinehome.us/public/Justin_Lyon__Future_of_Simulation_Brazil_Conference_2006v2.ppt

Download the PPT so you can read the notes on some of the slides.

Any mistakes are mine.

Any surprising insights are the work of other people smarter than me.

:-P

Please point out mistakes to me so I can fix them.

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Justin Lyon wrote:
Owen and Phil,

Traditional economics borrowed ideas from equilibrium physics and tried
to force-fit reality to make the math tractable prior to the emergence
of computers sufficient to solve the math. No need to do that now.

Also, Pareto optimitality is a sacred cow that must be slaughtered.

And, the myth of rational humans....hah...that is a good one.

I'll find the PPT for the Brazil conference, type up my notes and post
it to the web for the group's reading pleasure. The conference
organizers recorded the speech and I'll try to hunt down the URL.

I will be giving a workshop on simulation in London for a Gartner Group
conference where I will elaborate in more detail.

http://www.europe.gartner.com/bpm


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