Na, I think that plan includes an expectation that improving
efficiencies will get easier over time.  I think it overlooks that we
have a finite earth and an infinite expectation for exploiting it.  That
infinite expectation is partly expressed in a financial mechanism that
presently requires continual percent increases in real activity for
stability.   One option that doesn't run into those problems is maturing
the system, like any other kind of growth system that survives it's
initial growth spurt.


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcus G. Daniels
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:36 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] bigger plans, bigger little mistakes - 
> Electron Symmetry
> 
> 
> Robert Howard wrote:
> > “We have invented a game called Carbon Offsets. But to be effective,
> > it really requires everyone’s cooperation. Unfortunately, 
> we can’t get 
> > them to play.
> What I think is that necessity is the mother of invention. Make some 
> self-imposed pain to, say, radically reduce the number of internal 
> combustion automobiles on the road, and get large scale solar, clean 
> coal, or even fusion working (e.g. which I believe requires 
> little more 
> than having the governments of wealthy western nations stand 
> up to their 
> petroleum lobbies), and then the rest of the world will run with it, 
> because it will be easy to do. Open source energy. Or if for 
> some reason 
> it is not desirable to share some of this technology with 
> iffy nations, 
> we can export the energy to them real cheap.
> 
> Also, I'm not so sure it really requires everyone's cooperation. For 
> example, the United States alone a large fraction of the worlds' 
> electrical and petroleum energy usage. If that were all clean 
> power it 
> ought to help buy some time w.r.t. climate change.
> 
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