Just as health insurance, minimum wages, and other cost-increasing labor "regulations" increase off-shoring, if our electricity prices get high, we will import more of it from Mexico and Canada. If Mexico imports it from even more southern countries, slicing off a little profit as it passes through to us, how could we prove or know its original source or method of generation? We can't prevent ourselves from buying oil from countries we don't even like. How are we going to do it for electrons? LOL Electricity is only one tier in the economics. There are all the other products that indirectly result from electricity, of which prices would effect. Just by raising the prices of electricity here, we might help another polluting country's industry to thrive. I bet that Carbon Offsets, if implemented for only some participating countries, would (ironically) cause the total CO2 in our global atmosphere to increase.
Robert Howard Phoenix, Arizona -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcus G. Daniels Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:07 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] bigger plans, bigger little mistakes - Electron Symmetry Robert Howard wrote: > > Here are some problems with carbon offsets I never hear in debates: > > o Electrons cross both state and country borders. There’s a whole > “futures” industry on buying electricity for speculative market > demand. For example, California in 2000 > <http://www.cbo.gov/showdoc.cfm?index=3062&sequence=0>. > Isn't this a question of regulation over the physical distribution network? Generation facilities provide power and it's measured on entry to the grid (or else they couldn't charge for it). To stay connected, any participating vendor would have to have secured, market-visible CO2 instrumentation in place. ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
